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« on: February 08, 2005, 02:56:28 am »
If you're mindslavered, and your opponent causes you to waste your own land, can he choose and destroy a permanent of one of your opponent.  

To be clear:
#1 Opponent Mindslavers you
#2 On your turn (mindslavered) you waste your own land
#3 Could he choose to activate karmic justice?

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2005, 08:11:13 am »
http://www.themanadrain.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19671

Based on the answer to my question there, I would say no.
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2005, 08:11:39 am »
[card]Karmic Justice[/card]

The Wasteland's ability is not controlled by an opponent.
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2005, 03:46:13 pm »
On a simliar note, will KJ activate on Smokestacks?
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2005, 03:51:12 pm »
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On a simliar note, will KJ activate on Smokestacks?


No, because KJ only catches "destroy" effects, not sacrifices.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2005, 06:12:44 am »
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On a simliar note, will KJ activate on Smokestacks?


No, because KJ only catches "destroy" effects, not sacrifices.


Are you sure in this point ? Karmic Justice is one of the typical Parfait cards to combat stax decks...
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2005, 07:35:26 am »
If so, then it's really bad tech, since it doesn't work.

The card specifically says 'spells or abilities that destroy a noncreature permanent'. Smokestack makes you sacrifice things, which is not the same. From the old ruling summaries:

Quote from: D'Angelo (speaking about KJ)
A spell or ability that asks for a sacrifice will not trigger this card. [Odyssey FAQ 2001/10/04]
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2005, 09:24:11 am »
Karmic Justice is a typical Parfait card to fight Pernicious Deed. Sacred Ground helps against Smokestack.
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