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« on: April 16, 2005, 04:00:43 pm »

I thought this would be fun, alot of us are into music, and alot of us are into metal and rock and all that good stuff. I don't want to put Rap into any of this because I dispise it. Also; I'd rather this not turn into a horrible flame war and if it does, I ask any moderator to close it.

So, Here's some simple Categories

Best Drummer Ever
Best Guitarist Ever
Best Bassist Ever

Best Modern Drummer
Best Modern Guitarist
Best Modern Bassist

Best Songs Ever
Best Modern Songs

Note; I don't want any of this to be according to sales or any of that. I want this to be personal choice due to the musician(s) ability. If there's any best of's that should be added, post them! Also, you can give a song that displays that musician's ability the best.
Now, my choices

Best Drummer Ever; Neil Peart Personally, Although Bonham is right up there.
Best Guitarist; I'm going to say Van Halen, I like Page and Floyd alot. Hendrix, not so much
Best Bassist; No Idea

Best Modern Drummer; Danny Carey, There's alot of other drummers that are high up there nowadays.
Best Modern Guitarist; I'm not entirely sure on this. Zakk Wylde is insane though, so is Maiden's lead guitarist
Best bassist; Again, no idea.

Best Song Ever; I don't really know and this is probably the largest category. Stairway to Heaven I guess.
Best Modern Song; I'm not even sure if this should be a category or not so I'm not deciding on this one.
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2005, 12:01:44 am »

Best Drummer Ever: Ginger Baker
Best Guitarist Ever: Clapton, Hendrix, Terry Kath (Chicago), Brian May (my own personal favorite, but I'm biased)
Best Bassist Ever: George Harrison, Jack Bruce, John Deacon

Best Song ever: Bohemian Rhapsody (again, I'm biased)
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2005, 12:45:38 am »

Best Drummer Ever: Rick Allen (Def Leppard)
Best Guitarist Ever: SRV
Best Bassist Ever: Jaco Pastorius
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2005, 12:52:06 am »

If we are talking about general rock talent, Carter Beauford and Danny Carey are candidates for the best drummer position.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2005, 09:51:47 am »

As for Best Guitarist, surely Mark Knopfler (Dire Straits) should be at least mentioned?
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2005, 10:26:33 am »

Drummers:  Pete Sandoval-Morbid Angel,  Neil Pert-Rush
Guitarists: Andres Segovia, Al Di Meola, SRV, Eddie Van Halen, Dave Mustaine
Bassists:  Victor Wooten, John Paul Jones

Song (ever):  Recuerdos de la Alhambra-Fransisco Tarrega
Songs (modern):  God of Emptiness-Morbid Angel, New Millennium Cyanide Christ-Meshuggah, Harvest and Serenity Painted Death-Opeth, Domination-Pantera (RIP Dime)
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2005, 12:46:21 pm »

Best guitarist: When it comes to all that technical-nonsense, I think that Yngwie Malmsteen is probably number one.
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2005, 05:33:55 pm »

Best Drummer Ever: Neil Pert
Best Guitarist Ever: Hendrix, Satriani, Vai

Best Modern Guitarist: Vai or Satriani
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2005, 05:39:25 pm »

Danney Carey is absolutely amazing and should definitely be in contention for best drummer modern and possibly even ever. 
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2005, 03:31:19 pm »

Best Drummer Ever: Phil Selway.
Best Guitarist Ever: Jimi Hendrix and Michael Hedges. (1st place tie)
Best Bassist Ever: Michael Manring. But I'll give a shout out to Geddy Lee here. Les Claypool and Vic Wooten, as well. Might as well mention John Entwhistle and Jaco while I'm at it to.
(write-in) best saxophonist: John Coltrane. Maybe Eric Dolphy.

Best Modern Drummer: I really like that guy from Interpol. He's amazing. That guy from Primus too.
Best Modern Guitarist: no opinon.
Best Modern Bassist: no opinion.
(write in) Best Modern Composer: Steve Reich.

Best Songs Ever: Shit, I have no idea. "Across the Universe" (The Beatles) maybe. "Woodstock" (Joni Mitchell).
Best Modern Songs: "Kid A" or "Talk Show Host" (Radiohead) Smile

(write in) Best Modern Band: Radiohead.

Neil Peart blows guys. I say this as a reformed Rush fan. I was listening to Power Windows the other day, for old time's sake, and he just isn't nearly as good as I remember from high school. The same can be said for Alex Lifeson. Now, sure, Power Windows is a pretty so-so album, but I've had the same exp for every other Rush album I've given a relistening in the past couple of years. Geddy Lee, however, is a different story. His bass lines (not vocal) are still really infectious and completely ass-kicking. He withstands the test of time, unlike his bandmates. Getting back to Peart, someone like Bill Bruford or (Coltrane's drummer) Elvin Jones are light years ahead. I say: move along. Move along. Wink
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2005, 09:00:30 pm »

The best song ever is Boys Don't Cry by the Cure.

For best modern song, I've been listening to Holland 1945 by Neutral Milk Hotel frequently lately.
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« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2005, 01:10:05 am »

Best guitarist: When it comes to all that technical-nonsense, I think that Yngwie Malmsteen is probably number one.

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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2005, 01:25:53 am »

Best Drummer:  Mike Portnoy
Best Guitarist:  John Petrucci
Best Bassist: Les Claypool
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2005, 02:29:53 am »

Best Song Ever: Tears in Heaven by Eric Clapton.

New category (?) Best Composer: Howard Shore. (he made most of the LotR songs and Star Wars too I think)
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2005, 04:02:43 am »

OMG Kas you philistine. Star Wars was obviously John Williams. As for the options:

Best Drummer Ever - Gene Krupa
Best Guitarist Ever - Jimi Hendrix
Best Bassist Ever - Geezer Butler

Best Modern Drummer - Danny Carey (Tool)
Best Modern Guitarist - Billy Corgan (Smashing Pumpkins)
Best Modern Bassist - Les Claypool (Primus)

Best Song Ever - She's Not There (Santana)
Best Modern Song - Pushit (Tool)

DISCLAIMER: I just like to say that while my heart goes out to hardcore and to a lesser degree industrial, I'm realistic enough not to name Slapshot's Mark McKay as the best drummer ever or Ministry's Mike Scaccia as the best guitarist. While both bands kick the ass of everyone on the above list as far as my personal tastes are concerned, they're simply not the best on a techical level.
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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2005, 05:33:32 am »


In the bass area, I shall mention Flea and Bootsy Collins. Because you people just don't seem to know where the bass belongs. I mean REALLY people...
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2005, 08:19:19 am »

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Incorrect. Shore did indeed do LotR, but all 6 Star Wars movies were done by John Williams, who gets my vote by far (disregarding Beethoven, Bach, etc.). Amongst others, he has done Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Jurassic Park, Jaws, Harry Potter (not the second one, they just got some guy to remix his stuff from the first one, realized their mistake, and rehired him for the third), Home Alone, Schindler's List, E.T., and just about every other Spielberg movie, plus a bunch more. He's also been nominated for over 40 Oscars, and usually conducts the orchestra on that night. Finally, he has written of themes for the Olympics (1996 and 2000, IIRC), and conducted the Boston Pops for years.

If there is a memorable film score from the last thirty years, chances are pretty good that John Williams composed it.
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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2005, 03:24:52 pm »

Drummer:  John Bonham
Guitarist:  old school--Hendrix, new school--Vai
Bassist:  old school--Chris Squire (atleast his work on Roundabout), new school--Claypool

old school song:  the Day the Music Died American Pie
new school song:  release by Pearl Jam

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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2005, 04:04:47 pm »

Guitarist: Jimmy Page, Ed Van Halen. Slide Guitar: Duane Allman
(Write in) All-around, multi-purpose musician: Jon Paul Jones, Ian Anderson, Frank Zappa, mainstays of Pink Floyd (Gilmour, Mason Waters)

How about singers? My vote's for Robert Plant (who can guess my favorite band?)

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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2005, 06:03:56 pm »

Best Drummer Ever: John Bonham
Best Guitarist Ever: Jimi Hendrix
Best Bassist Ever: Jaco Pastorius

Best Modern Drummer: Danny Carey
Best Modern Guitarist: John Williams (the famous guitar player - not the other composer). For best modern rock guitarist, Mikael Akerfeldt.
Best Modern Bassist: Colin Edwin

Best Song Ever: Moonlight Sonata
Best Modern Song: Demon of the Fall
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« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2005, 08:24:34 pm »

Agreed on the Zappa all-around. And, Jeff, You and your dream theater demands Hammerfall and Blind Guardian, and possibly Rhapsody Smile. Jason will tell you if they're any good. Razz
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On a side note; I'm really happy no one mentioned metallica or slipknot as best ofs.

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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2005, 09:56:12 pm »

Agreed on the Zappa all-around. And, Jeff, You and your dream theater demands Hammerfall and Blind Guardian, and possibly Rhapsody Smile. Jason will tell you if they're any good. Razz
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On a side note; I'm really happy no one mentioned metallica or slipknot as best ofs.

Edit: Wow, too many smilies first try.

Check out Demons and Wizards if you like those fellows. It's a colaboration between Iced Earth and Blind Guardian that is infinitely better than both.
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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2005, 10:07:05 pm »

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« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2005, 11:42:58 pm »

Best all-round musicians: Paul McCartney, Queen (all four of them were amazing musicians, capable of playing several instruments, writing and singing). In terms of sheer musical talent, it's pretty hard to go past Mozart, though.
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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2005, 01:32:23 am »

Best Song Ever: Tears in Heaven by Eric Clapton.

I agree completely- Tears in Heaven is one of my favorite songs.  Plenty of Clapton's other stuff is great too- Change the World is another one of my favorites.
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« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2005, 09:56:28 am »

Best guitarist (all categories): Stevie Ray Vaughn, Yngwie Malmsteen, Michael Romeo (Symphony X), Pat the White
Best drummer: Many many choices here... Martin Lopez (Opeth), Gene Hoglan (Death, SYL), Sean Reinert (Death, Cynic)
Best bassist: Steve Harris (Iron Maiden), Steve Digiorgio (Death, Sadus, Testament)
Best singer: Hansi Kursch (Blind Guardian), Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden)

I don't like old school music (Zappa, Led Zeppelin Jimi Hendrix) so I can't judge. Mostly into metal, but my choices depend mostly on the groove or sheer technicality. Lopez from Opeth may not play the most intricate stuff but he sure has the groove and this is REALLY important to me.
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« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2005, 11:21:54 am »

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The second one I assumed was also a mistake, since Mason didn't so shit and Waters was like 65-75% of the band's creativity.

I wasn't trying to impose my opinion, just correct some factual errors.
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« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2005, 11:33:42 am »

Best Modern Guitarist: Tom Morello (Rage Against the Machine, Audioslave)
Best Composer: John Williams, Mark Mothersbaugh
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« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2005, 12:47:04 pm »

Best Drummer:  Mike Portnoy
Best Guitarist:  John Petrucci
Best Bassist: Les Claypool

Surprised to see that this was the only guy to mention Portnoy...

Best Modern Drummer: Portnoy
Best Old School Drummer: Bondham

Best Modern Guitarist: Petrucci
Best Old School Guitarist: Hendrix

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« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2005, 08:06:01 pm »

My favourites:

Drummer: Sein Reinert
Guitarist: Ron Jarzombek
Bassist: Sean Malone

All of those are modern, really..

Song: Summer part 3.
Modern Song: Tough call.. The Cry of Mankind, Restless Oblivion, Black Rose Immortal, Trains, Rust Cleansing, In Motion, Light of Day, Day of Darkness? I really have no idea. Depends on my mood.
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