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« on: April 24, 2005, 09:33:45 pm »

Okay so I've been away from magic for a long long long time, and with the mana drain 6 coming up I've decided that I'd like to get back into it. Before I used to play suicide black and with the new block out i was wondering what changes may have come to the deck if any at all, also what new cards i should look out for and how i should change my sideboard. Besides that I'd value any feedback Here's my deck as it is.

18x swamp
4x wasteland
1x strip mine
1x black lotus

4x durress
4x darkritual
4x hymn to tourach
4x sinkhole
3x powder keg
1x null rod
1x demonic tutor
1x yawgmoth's will

4x Phyrexian negator
4x hypnotic specter
4x nantuko shade
2x masticore

sideboard-
1x sol ring
3x null rod
4x contagaion
3x perish
4x dystopia

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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2005, 09:38:11 pm »

one popular change was using a different deck...
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2005, 09:49:11 pm »

The deck has become outdated.  Most of the disruption is really just not relevant anymore, and you have a glaring weakness to the topdeck.

However, if you lack the cards to play anything else, here're some quick suggestions.

- Withered Wretch is way better than Specter and Nantuko Shade.  Pick one to cut for Withered Wretch.
- Powder Keg is nowhere near as good as Null Rod
- Mox Jet?
- Chains of Mephistopheles is some disruption that's way better than Hymn.
- Your sideboard needs a complete overhaul.  Most of those cards are really bad.  I recommend checking up on some (like the most recent 5 from large tournaments) top eight lists and figuring out some cards that would work better there.
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2005, 09:54:19 pm »

I usually don't respond to these sorts of threads but since you're planning on spending 1-2 days, possibly extensive travel time, and $20 this coming weekend, I'd hate to see all those resources wasted for nothing.  Without meaning to sound condescending, you will have zero chance of doing well at Waterbury with that deck, or any permutation thereof.  It has been exhaustively established and reestablished, documented and redocumented, debated and redebated, that suicide black cannot be a competitive deck archetype in Type One in its present form.  As the poster above me put it, the surest road to improvement is "play a different deck."

I understand that budgetary constraints might make you think one of the more competitive deck types would be out of your range.  However, there are a few decks in Type One that are relatively cheap to assemble, and have a proven record of success.  The first two examples that come to mind are Fish and Food Chain Goblins.  Those links will explain the decks.  I strongly suggest picking one of those over Suicide Black.  While I'm certainly not going to discourage you from adding another $20 and warm body to the Waterbury field, I'd rather see you come with a chance to win than bring a toothpick to a gun fight.  Good luck if you go.
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2005, 09:59:33 pm »

I'm probably gonna switch to fish sometime soon, but for this tourny I have no choice but stick to this, mabye i could switch, not sure
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2005, 10:46:24 pm »

Welcome to TMD! Please read our forum rules here: http://www.themanadrain.com/forums/index.php?topic=18027.0

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