Phyrexian Furnace and Deep Analysis

[arj]

Hi

Just wanted to be sure that if such a situation in a tournament should come up, that I know the correct moment to use the furnace. The situation is that My opponent is announcing that he is playing deep analysis. I want to remove the deep analysis from the game before he can replay it from his graveyard using flashback. So the question is exactly when does a card go to the graveyard and can he announce that he plays it again before I can remove it? What if deep analysis was an instant?

Thank you in advance. 

[epeeguy]

If it is your opponent's turn, and it's his Main Phase still, then he would have to pass priority to you in order for you to be able to use the Phyrexian Furnace to remove the Deep Analysis.  Since he's the active player, he can always choose to play the Deep Analysis when it's initially gone to his graveyard, before you have a chance to use the Furnace.  In which case, it goes to the stack and is not a legal target.  Of course, if he passes priority to you, then you have the opportunity to use the Furnace to play Deep Analysis; since it's a sorcery, he wouldn't be able to respond to the Furnace's ability by playing it.

If it were an instant instead of a sorcery, then the only way to remove it would be to catch him when he has no mana available or simply decides not to play it.  As he could just respond to the Furnace's ability by playing the card, it would not get removed.

[arj]

Not sure I understand this correctly. If I am an active player, I can play as many sorceries including cards in my graveyeard with flashback before I pass priority for the other player to eg. counter?

Thanks for the explanation.

[Jebus]

No, not exactly.

Ok, lets say you have DA in your hand.  You play it, and put it on the stack.  You still have priority at this point.  You could play an instant or ability now if you wanted, but you would rather have DA resolve now.  So, you pass prioirty to your opponent.  They can either play an instant or ability now, or pass back.  If they pass back, both players will have passed priority in a row without taking an action.  So, the top object on the stack resolves.  So, since DA is the only item on the stack it will resolve, two cards are drawn and then it is put into the graveyard.

Now, after every object on the stack resolves, the active player gets priority again.  They can now play DA from their graveyard and put it onto the stack before their opponent has a chance to remove it.  However, if they play something else or simply pass priority to enter the next phase, the non-active player will get a chance to remove it.

[epeeguy]

Not sure I understand this correctly. If I am an active player, I can play as many sorceries including cards in my graveyeard with flashback before I pass priority for the other player to eg. counter?

No, because you can only play a sorcery when three conditions are met:

1.)  The stack is empty.
2.)  You are the active player.
3.)  It is your main phase.

If these three conditions are not met, then you cannot play a sorcery.  This is why, if you want to flashback the Deep Analysis, you would have to play it immediately from your graveyard after it resolved.  Otherwise, if you pass priority, then your opponent could use an ability to remove it and you couldn't respond by flashing back the Deep Analysis (as the stack is not empty at this point).

[arj]

Many thanks all.

I understand it now