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Author Topic: Salvagers Oath: Mana Drainless by Nature. It's faster and better too (IMO).  (Read 1241 times)
Zeylon
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« on: May 24, 2005, 01:16:51 am »

Credit goes to Tom Lee whose report (http://www.starcitygames.com/php/news/article/9492.html) I ran into on SCG inspiring me to build his deck, with slight modifications...

Maindeck:

Artifacts
1 Black Lotus
1 Lion's Eye Diamond
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
2 Pyrite Spellbomb

Artifact Creatures
1 Platinum Angel

Creatures
2 Auriok Salvagers


Enchantments
4 Oath Of Druids
1 Seal of Cleansing

Instants
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Brainstorm
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
4 Force Of Will
4 Impulse
1 Vampiric Tutor

Sorceries
1 Balance
1 Demonic Tutor
4 Duress
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
1 Tinker

Basic Lands
1 Island
1 Plains

Lands
2 City Of Brass
4 Flooded Strand
4 Forbidden Orchard
1 Tropical Island
1 Tundra
1 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
1 Library of Alexandria   

Sideboard:

1 Claws Of Gix
2 Tormod's Crypt
1 Iridescent Angel
1 Pristine Angel
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Orim's Chant
1 Rack And Ruin
1 Ray Of Revelation
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Swords To Plowshares
1 Gaea's Blessing
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Strip Mine


I subbed out Darksteel Colossus in favor of Platinum Angel. Why? Because it sucks tinkering or oathing up Darksteel Colossus against a fellow combo deck or against an aggro deck that has you low on life. Platinum Angel prevents the opponent from winning long enough for you to Oath up Salvagers. I figure Platinum Angel is just as good against Fish and such as Darksteel Colossus is.

Regrowth, does this card merit inclusion in the deck?

Also, I was curious if you guys thinks Ideas Unbounds might be any good in Salvagers Oath. It lets you dig up three cards to try and search out your combo. I think the card may be somewhat strong in this build.

If Timetwister merits a spot in the deck, doesn’t Wheel of Fortune and other similar cards merit playing as well. I’m not sure if Timetwister does merit a spot in the deck though. Do you guys think it does? If not, what are some possible replacemtns.

Considering the large amount of mana this deck runs, should some of it be cut for cards like additional Seals of Cleansing or Misdirections to deal with Counterspells, Pithing Needles, Chalices and such.

I added Library of Alexandria to the list because this deck has little trouble having 7 cards in hand, even after tutoring and such. But I am considering taking it out if testing proves that it’s never worthwhile. What are your thoughts on this?

I am also interested in hearing any ideas you guys have on new tech that might work well in this deck.

And for you question, yes, I tested Intuition, Mana Drain and TfK. I found all three to be too mana intensive and unneeded.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2005, 11:40:42 am by Zeylon » Logged
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2005, 01:34:43 pm »


If Timetwister merits a spot in the deck, doesn’t Wheel of Fortune and other similar cards merit playing as well. I’m not sure if Timetwister does merit a spot in the deck though. Do you guys think it does? If not, what are some possible replacemtns.

TimeTwister is blue, and pitches to Force of Will and gets nasty strips/slavers back into your opponent's deck.  Wheel of Fortune just isn't as strong.  That's why Wheel is used even less than TimeTwister.

My only tip on playing Oath Salvagers is to play it a lot and be familliar to what it can and can't do. This build is meant to be pure combo game 1 and racing the hate game 2 and 3. 

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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2005, 12:21:39 am »

Thx.

My main questions are...

Does this build seem perfect or is there something you would recommend that I change?

Do you think replacing the Colossus with Platinum Angel was a wise choice or a dumb move?

Does Timetwister even warrant inclusion in this deck?

Does Regrowth warrant inclusion in this deck?

What do you think of the mana base, do I run too much mana, too much colorless mana ie. LoA etc? Should I cut some mana for more business spells?

Here's what I love about the build...

It's 10 proxy, doesn't use Drains and yet I think is every bit as powerful due to it's greater speed as any other Oath build.

It uses Tinker giving you in effect 5 cards with which you can combo out with and also includes black's tutors giving you a very good shot at comboing out fast each game.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2005, 12:25:44 am by Zeylon » Logged
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2005, 03:43:46 pm »

If your heart is set on an aggressive combo build of Oath- here's my suggestions:

Colossus is probably just better in most matchups, most decks can deal with Plats in the extra time you give them. 

Timetwister's a nice enough card, but nuking your graveyard could be too big a drawback, even with Force-pitchabilitty, Wheel is probably just better, I'd use the slot to test Ideas Unbound for now, though.

I'd probably cut the regrowth, unless you want to add Gifts Ungiven to the deck (which could be a way to go, but I'd imagine you wouldn't like the cost if Thirst is too much for you)

The manabase is definitely taking up too many slots, I'd cut 2 or 3 sources right off, possibly to test Ideas Unbound at first, which does feel strong in a deck with so many cards it doesn't mind discarding (LED/Spellbombs/Colossus/extra Oaths).  Personally, I think Library just lets you win games you otherwise couldn't, but I find that's really a playstyle call
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