It is time to unban Contract from Below!!! Serious Discussion!!!

[Imsomniac101]

Right now with the insurgence of Fish decks sporting Chalice of the Void, combo is nigh unplayable. It is my belief that Chalice of the Void was made by Wizards, specifically for Type 1 to hose combo. And it's done its job far too well. The metagame is dominated by Aggro-Control and Control and needs to be brought back to balance; Contract from Below is the card to do that  (jeez, sounds too much like Star Wars).

Combo hasn't made any notable top 8's in months. Right now, combo needs a significant boost for it to be even playable in today's metagame. And I believe that that boost is Contract from Below. I know most of you are thinking that I'm crazy, and I will probably get a lot of flak here, but I don't care. Right now, Contract from Below needs to be unbanned and released into the Vintage scene as a restricted one of for Combo to be competitive.

Contract from Below gives combo another bomb that is actually in colour and requires no unwieldy changes to a deck's manabase and increases consistency. It costs one mana and fits easily into a combo deck's mana curve.

Looking at the pros and cons of unbanning Contract from Below.

Pros:
- will give Combo decks a significant boost to playability.
- doesn't affect any other archetypes but combo (maybe a con, you decide)

Cons:
- it is THE most broken spell printed in the game
- we might see a combo summer or winter or whatever season.

You guys might be able to think of some more but for right now those are the most obvious.

(edit: by the way when I say combo, I mean hardcore Storm combo, ie Deathlong, Meandeck Tendrils etc not the pussy Mana Drain reliant decks)

[Komatteru]

Dude, one copy of Contract from Below ensures that I would never lose a game again with Long.  Ever.  No exceptions.

Btw, combo can be competitive in the hands of the right player (see here).

[wraith985]

Did you completely miss the 'ante' part of the card? Y'know, the reason it's banned in the first place?

[Anusien]

Pros:
- makes combo decent

Cons:
- it is THE most broken spell printed in the game
- we might see a combo summer or winter or whatever season.

Tell me this is some kind of joke.  It isn't that combo is unplayable, especially with the TPS that is coming about (although the banning of 3Sphere hurts TPS).  It's more that additional proxies make it easier to play Drain Control, and Vintage players hate playing combo, with a few rare expections.

(End Sarcasm)
Who am I kidding?  Contract isn't broken. Let's unban Contract and unrestrict Timetwister, Wheel of Fortune and the Moxen.

[Imsomniac101]

The ante can be errata'ed easily, that is a minor issue.

@Anusien:
TPS is a pile. Its not consistent enough for a combo deck and the only reason it is viable right now IMO is because it runs FoW which in turn requires a high blue count which in turn makes it inconsistent. Drain decks are damn expensive even with the 10 proxies you get, cuz you still need to buy Drains after you proxy up your power. Being able to play a combo deck when your on 10 proxies is a gift because you don't need to buy Drains.

Dude, one copy of Contract from Below ensures that I would never lose a game again with Long. Ever. No exceptions.

Btw, combo can be competitive in the hands of the right player (see here).

Yes, I've read your report. But the problem with your logic is that your assuming that you will have Contract ALL  THE TIME, which means that your going to put Contract in your board as a wish target, meaning that you will have to decide between wishing for YawgWill and Contract

The entire idea of unbanning Contract is to put combo decks on slightly on par with decks running chalice.

[Anusien]

Right.  So Ante a card to make a card that says B: Draw7.  Have you noticed how fucking nuts Ancestral is at U, Draw 3.  Nevermind that you at least have to work to cast other Draw7s because they don't get fueled by Ritual.  If it was unbanned and errata'ed, it would be instantly restricted.  But you're still running it as a 4 of, because you'd get Mystical, Vampiric, Demonic Tutor + Contract.  Nevermind that when Grim Tutor becomes legal you then have something like 1/6 of your deck dedicated to resolving Contract form Below.  Go read about 5color, where they have more than 4 times our deck sizes and 4 Contracts (so they have a lesser probability of finding one during a game) and it rules those games.  QEfuckingD

[Hyperion]

Sorry, but I just don't see any way for a "serious discussion" to happen here.