Gamingetc proxies

[mrieff]

Gamingetc is offering a line of P9 proxies (actually P9+Library).
http://gamingetc.com/powernine.htm
They feature alternate artwork and are relatively cheap.

I was interested in people's opinions about these. Do you find them useful and pretty, utter crap, or somewhat in between?
 

[Hi-Val]

They do not make my loins tingle. CGI art is bad in fantasy settings and the flavor text is gawd-awful. At least look at a Bartlett's and put real quotes on there.

[Matt]

I like how they say "Power Nine" but they're ten of them. Go LoA!

[Kowal]

My immediate response was the same as Hi-Val's, but after looking at them a little more they do have a sort of attraction.  I'd have to see them in person to see if I like them at all.

[Revvik]

I bought a set, but really only because it wasn't my credit card and it'll take a month for my parents to realize it's still hooked up to my Paypal account.  Might make good proxies for testing so I don't have to take my power outside of my house anymore than necessary.

[nataz]

here is the problem I have with them, you can only use them in a non-tourney setting.

Most events I go to if you have a proxy it has to have the correct name, CC, Color, and rules text to be "legal".
Since a card with sapphire written on it in no way shape or form tells your opponent that its a "mox sapphire", with a CC of 0, an artifact, and can be taped for U these proxies wouldn't be legal.

I understand the obvious reasons why they cant actually put "mox sapphire" on the card, but 10 bucks for proxy cards that you can't use beyond your own testing seems like a waste of money. If I'm goldfishing or testing against friends I know that Island with pen markings on it is a mox sapphire. I dint need a special proxy. Id rather just use the old eraser and real card trick to make my proxies then buy these.

[food-chain-fan]

i bought a set of these and prefer them to home made proxies the artwork isn't terrable especially on time walk too bad they arent tournament legal  . But they might allow them at smaller tournaments, my friend made it all the way to a top 8 before he got called on his mise as a proxy for ancestral recall.

[kl0wn]

Most events I go to if you have a proxy it has to have the correct name, CC, Color, and rules text to be "legal".
Since a card with sapphire written on it in no way shape or form tells your opponent that its a "mox sapphire", with a CC of 0, an artifact, and can be taped for U these proxies wouldn't be legal.

Plus there's the matter of thickness and card size. These things look more square than regular Magical cards and there's no possible way to determine their thickness without actually inspecting them in real life.

Like I've said before: To make excellent proxies (functionality-wise, not looks-wise), just get yourself a pen eraser, a rolling ball pen and the following cards:

Disarm/Dream's Grip (Ancestral Recall)
8th Edition Merchant Scroll (Time Walk)
Fabricate (Timetwister)
Welding Jar (Black Lotus)
Seat of The Synod (Sapphire)
Great Furnace (Ruby)
Vault of Whispers (Jet)
Tree of Tails (Emerald)
Ancient Den (Pearl)

Erase the card name, art and textbox (and the "land" part of the artifact lands, but leave the "T: Add x" intact, it'll save some work) and write in your replacement name and text. Even do some doodling to make your proxies look more like what they're supposed to be. You can substitute any card with similar attributes for anything I mentioned above, but the artifact lands work best for moxes.

Then after you got all that stuff together, sit down for about an hour and make some good proxies. This also only costs you like $2 toget all the supplies. It solves the headache problem from having to read poorly-marked proxies all day and solves the thickness problem.

[crazedpenguinman]

I am in favor of ripping foils off the card face, with no noticable thickness change you have produce something that can be written on easily and is quite distinguishable as a proxy.

[lizzish]

I peeled foils off cards and proceeded to make myself textless (mostly unclothed) anime chick proxies.
As anyone in Binghamton can attest, they are adorable. I'd be willing to make them for people if they provided me with the already-blank cards, and perhaps some cards as compensation for my time.

<3

[Matt]

I am down with the klown, as it were. The erasure method is a good one, but I have a question: the times I've tried this, the cards don't erase as well as I'd like. It was hard enough to get the name and text off an island, having to do the art too seems like a chore. Is there a better way to erasing? Like, is a standalone eraser better than a pencil's? Does the color of the rubber matter? Is there some arcane treatment you can do to a card to make it easier (like, I don't know, sticking it in the freezer for a couple hours)? Or is the solution just good old-fashioned elbow grease?

[food-chain-fan]

Mine came in today they are bigger than normal cards and the back is not a magic back. That was expected though because if they used the same back they would probably be sued. Since these are bigger they probably wont be legal in even small tourneys. Oh well, they make good testing proxies.

[Hi-Val]

I use an eraser I bought from an art store that is a long cylinder and comes in a little pen-like holder that you push it out as you would a utility knife. I only use it for small erasing jobs though, since there's something better for demolishing card faces:

ACETONE

It's five bucks for a liter at a hardware store. Make sure that you get pure stuff. Nail polish remover has water and other gunk in it that will make your card fray and go fuzzy. Not fun. Use q-tips and cotton balls and make sure that the acetone doesn't get to the sides or onto the back to mess things up and you're gold.

[ump]

Mine came in today they are bigger than normal cards and the back is not a magic back. That was expected though because if they used the same back they would probably be sued. Since these are bigger they probably wont be legal in even small tourneys. Oh well, they make good testing proxies.

So they are pretty much worthless.

[kl0wn]

Is there a better way to erasing? Like, is a standalone eraser better than a pencil's? Does the color of the rubber matter? Is there some arcane treatment you can do to a card to make it easier (like, I don't know, sticking it in the freezer for a couple hours)? Or is the solution just good old-fashioned elbow grease?

Yes. I use a standalone pen eraser (the white kind) and a lot of good, old-fashioned elbow grease. I haven't tried acetone or any arcane treatments since the white standalone worked just fine and didn't find anything else necesarry.

And Liz's proxies are pretty good, but they could use more R-rated parts (full frontal? full rearal? can you get called on conduct for that?). :p

[lizzish]

Bryce, I'm all for R-rated proxies. I just didn't want to sit down across from a little kid someday and hear "Mommy, I can see her proxy's breastses!"

[kl0wn]

Don't worry, that very same child will have been blinded by my "special" Anger earlier in the day. And if not, I'm willing to take that risk.

[Kowal]

I just got a set of these on a trade with Tuttle's dad, and I have to say they look really, REALLY good in person.  Good enough for me to want to run them over my real power/fake power/andy's power mix.

[xrizzo]

I just got a set of these on a trade with Tuttle's dad, and I have to say they look really, REALLY good in person.  Good enough for me to want to run them over my real power/fake power/andy's power mix.

Can you confirm their thickness and size relative to real cards?  If they aren't indistinguishable in a sleeve, then it won't matter how good they look.

Also, do you have a regular set or a foil set?

[Matt]

Other - good idea, lame execution. Those photoshops of 8th edition moxen were good, these aren't.

[xthexpunisherx]

I just got a set of these on a trade with Tuttle's dad, and I have to say they look really, REALLY good in person.  Good enough for me to want to run them over my real power/fake power/andy's power mix.

Can you confirm their thickness and size relative to real cards?  If they aren't indistinguishable in a sleeve, then it won't matter how good they look.

Also, do you have a regular set or a foil set?

I have a set they seem to be the same thickness but are longer than other cards :-/ So have some fun with a knife or play with the japanese sleaves which are larger type.

[Kowal]

They're ever so slightly thinner than your average card, but indistinguishable from most power or mana drains which are worn enough that they're also thinner/bend easier than brand new cards.

Also, as said above, they're also a wee bit taller.  Just trim them.  It's no big deal.

[xthexpunisherx]

They're ever so slightly thinner than your average card, but indistinguishable from most power or mana drains which are worn enough that they're also thinner/bend easier than brand new cards.

Also, as said above, they're also a wee bit taller.  Just trim them.  It's no big deal.

Yeah i think its worth it I got the $10 set and i got a foil Ancestral so that was quite awesome It would be nice if some TOs allowed them with opaque sleaves

[Kowal]

If I can get the Hadley scene to start rolling again, I'll be allowing them with opaque sleeves.  They're preferable to little pieces of paper with the text "A Recall" on them, or sharpie on a land.  That said, while I like these proxies enough to run them, for the sake of clarity it's probably best if people use photocopies or printouts of cards.

[mrieff]

How are the foil lookings?

[Revvik]

I got the foil LoA.  It's actually vey nicely done.  I'm going to have to use these in concept decks and testing - they'll keep my real stuff nicer, longer.
Now if only there were some way to get a set of proxies that were legal to play in proxy tournaments, Magic: the Gathering sized, and without corny flavor text...

[Kowal]

I kind of like the flavor text on some of them.  The Emerald's flavor text is pretty dumb though.

The foils looked very nice from what I saw, but they're also pricey.  I got the full set of non-foil almost as a kick in, and I think they look great.

[Disburden]

I was excited when I heard about these proxies and went to the site ASAP.

I hate them, they look like shit to me. I am programmed to see real moxen, lotuses, walk, ancestrals, etc. Ive seen fakes of the real p9 that look amazingly real and you wouldn't be able to tell a foot away from them (I own one Time Walk thats fake from before I owned power and it's awesome to play with and fool people).


I wish these proxies didn't look like that lame ass X-men card game that came out like 7 years ago. Overpower or something?

[Dr_Tongue]

I think they're kinda cool as I ordered the set myself. Even though they may be a hair off, I find it hard to believe they would be any more recognizable than say someone's worn power cards compared to their NM shiny (thick)foils...A sleeve with a colored back would be able to mask a NM card from a played I should suspect as well as a few mm's.

Glad to see there isn't a big murmer on this, as I did send a check, and I'm waiting for it to clear as there are only 5000 sets...Yeah they're God ugly ~~wink, wink

[Revvik]

Ive seen fakes of the real p9 that look amazingly real and you wouldn't be able to tell a foot away from them (I own one Time Walk thats fake from before I owned power and it's awesome to play with and fool people).


I wish these proxies didn't look like that lame ass X-men card game that came out like 7 years ago. Overpower or something?

I owned a Pearl like that.  Although it's cool and all to fool people like that, I decided I'd rather just be rid of the damn thing.
The GamingEtc. Proxies will probably replace my real power until I attend tournaments and such - I can put the real thing in a 9-pocket page and frame it  .

Overpower wasn't an X-Men card game - the real X-Men Trading Card Game was much more shortlived andd incredibly abysmal, while Overpower (both Marvel and DC) had mutliple expansions and was fairly popular during its time, although not nearly so much as Pokemon or Magic.
For example: the X-Men Trading Card Game booster box I had on eBay mutliple times, and finally managed to sell it at $4.99.  Marvel: Overpower, Mission Control expansion booster box: sold for around $30.  This was over last winter.

This isn't even the worst of the dreck I get to put on eBay, by the way.