Help with my 3-Color Budget Oath Build.

[Prometheon]

The reason I'm running Oath is because I can't afford power, and I absolutly love running Duress and FoW in the same deck after playing with Doomsday for a long time (I effin` love that deck.) The current list I'm running is this:

Mana
1 Lotus Petal
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
2 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
4 Forbidden Orchard
1 Forest
1 Swamp
2 Island
1 Bayou
2 Tropical Island
2 Underground Sea
2 Wasteland
1 Stripmine

Tutor and Draw
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
2 Skeletal Scrying
4 Brainstorm

Win
1 Ancient Hydra
1 Akroma
4 Oath of Druids
1 Gaea's Blessing

Disruption
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Leak
2 Stifle
3 Misdirection
4 Duress
2 Phyrexian Furnace (or Tormod's Crypt)

A few things I've been noticing:

1) Furnace is awesome.
2) Skeletal Scrying is horrible. Because I don't run a lot of fast mana (I don't have moxes), I can rarely scry for more than 2 or 3. I was thinking of running an AK-Intuition engine, but I don't have enough slots. I could cut 2 mana sources and the Scryings for the AKs, but then I have no room left for Intuition. Plus, this draw engine is pretty mana intensive as well. Pretty much the only other option is TFK, but I'm not running very many artifacts. Impulse maybe (though that doesn't really count as 'draw')?

Also, I've been thining about cutting the Furnaces and 2 mana sources in order to run a full set of Counterspells, but this just seems kinda janky. Chalice-TfK is also tempting, as I run no 0-mana cards other than Mana Crypt.

Anyways, thanks, and any and all suggestions are appreciated.

[zulander]

OK, let's start with the mana. You don't need 26 resources, you should probably run 24. I would -1 forest and -1 bayou. With those two cards you can increase your draw and tutor column by two. -2 Skeletal scrying and +4 accumulated knowledge. Your disruption should be fine. Use furnace over Tormods crypt in here. Make a sideboard. Also if you can get a chrome mox I think it would help out instead of sol ring (it's up to your preference though).  Don't think that because you have no intuitions in here that you can't run AK. It is perfectly fine in Oath because Oath mills your deck giving you AK's to help out.

[crazzykid81083]

My oath build i run for creatures
1-akroma
1-spirit of the night
1-darksteel colossus
1-serra avatar
Diabolic edict or something stupid other than swords and i still have win conditions floating back to my deck
(just a thought though)

[Prometheon]

Alright, this is what I have now, and it already feels a thousand times better. The only thing I'm not sure of is whether to run Chalice and TfK as a 3-3 split, or 4 chalices and only 2 TfKs. Card advantage has not really been much of a problem.

Mana
1 Lotus Petal
1 Sol Ring
2 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
2 Flooded Strand
3 Island
1 Bayou
2 Tropical Island
2 Underground Sea
4 Forbidden Orchard
3 Polluted Delta

Tutor and Draw
1 Vampiric Tutor
3 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Brainstorm
1 Demonic Tutor

Win
1 Ancient Hydra
1 Gaea's Blessing
1 Akroma
4 Oath of Druids

My Sexy Disruption Package
2 Stifle (friggin awesome)
2 Phyrexian Furnace
3 Misdirection
3 Chalice of the Void
4 Mana Leak
4 Force of Will
4 Duress

How's this look?

I wanted to run the chalices, to level the playing field (I have no moxes) and this makes my disruption package even more potent.Also, because of my now heightened artifact count, TfK is more runneable. I do notice that 3 mana at instant speed is a little much though, especially if I want to keep Leak mana up. What do you all think? And thanks again.

[Firefly]

I feel Chalices mainboard would be a bit over the top. But if your Meta is heavily powered you could consider running them main.

[zulander]

How are the mana leaks doing? Other than that it looks alight, maybe a couple of more lands.

[Prometheon]

This is my further refined build, after a lot of playtesting.

I've moved the furnaces into the SB to make room for more draw, which is ok, because it gives me access to more countermagicto stop everything that Furnace would stop. Try throwing this together and goldfishing it-it runs very nicely. It would kill for a couple of moxen, but the chalice-for-0 immunity is actually kind of cool sometimes.

Mana
1 Lotus Petal
3 Polluted Delta
4 Forbidden Orchard
2 Underground Sea
2 Tropical Island
1 Bayou
3 Island
2 Flooded Strand
1 Sol Ring
1 Strip Mine
2 Wasteland

Tutor and Draw
1 Demonic Tutor
4 Accumulatd Knowledge
2 Intuition
2 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Brainstorm
1 Vampiric Tutor

Win
1 Ancient Hydra
1 Akroma
4 Oath of Druids
1 Gaea's Blessing

Disruption
4 Mana Leak
4 Duress
4 Force of Will
2 Stifle
3 Misdirection (I may cut 1 for a Daze)

The sideboard would include some Chalices, and some Crypts/Furnaces (probably crypts, as when you're siding them in, you aren't going to want to be cycling).

[Firefly]

3 Misdirection (I may cut 1 for a Daze)

Why would you consider running 1 Daze? It would be a dead card most of the times, you really need it in your hand turn 1 or 2.

[tidal kraken]

Manabase: 24
4 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand
2 Underground Sea
2 Tropical Island
4 Forbidden Orchard
3 Island
2 Swamp
2 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
1 Lotus Petal
1 Sol Ring

Creatures: 2
1 Akroma
1 Spirit

Win: 5
4 Oath
1 Gaea's Blessing

Tutor/Draw: 11
4 Brainstorm
4 Impulse
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor

Control: 18
4 Duress
3 Mana Leak
3 Daze
4 Force of Will
2 Stifle
1 Deed
1 Rushing River

That's my team's build of oath. It works very well. Spirit can be taken out for Hydra if you think you'll need it. Stifle can also be MisD if you want it to be.

[islanderboi10]

I have played against a U/G/b version of oath. In my opinion, it is one of the best builds. But I have a few questions. Why not run Yawg. Will? I know it my seem bad, but it really is broken. I was playing monoU(don't ask) and I was a gaisnt a buddy playing U/G/b Oath. He won off yawg. Will. But his build had power. Do you think that the fact that the builds are powerless could have an affect on the way Yawg. Will works in the deck?

Thanks! =)

[Prometheon]

Yes, the lack of power severely hampers Will, as my build does not generate as much mana as a build with full acess to moxes. However, this particular approach is not as bad as it seems, with Chalice for 0 running rampant everywhere.

[dre4m]

Off-topic, but if you don't  have power how were you playing Doomsday?

Chalice  in your maindeck is a very good call, as is AK, stifle as well.  However, you MUST have access to a Chrome Mox or Mox Diamond to speed up your manabase a little in lieu of power.

[Prometheon]

In my area there are 5 proxy tourneys and 0 proxy tournies. At the 5 proxy events I'm running Doomsday and usually doing well (usually 4-1) but at the 0 proxy events, I've been running garbage like suiblack and WW (although last time I played WW, I made it to the semifinals and came in third, beating 2 fully powered workshop decks.)

Basically, I'm very fascinated with 3 color oath, as I think it can run effectivly with no proxies (my current build is doing quite well) and it's definatly a better bet at these events then WW.