TheManaDrain.com
September 23, 2025, 07:57:34 am *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News:
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Green Balanced Aether Vial  (Read 1828 times)
Anusien
Adepts
Basic User
****
Posts: 3669


Anusien
View Profile
« on: August 02, 2005, 04:44:48 pm »

<Green Balanced Aether Vial> - 1GG
Enchantment
Discard a creature card from your hand: You may put a creature card with converted mana cost equal to the converted mana cost of the discarded card from your hand into play.

What do you think?  JOrlove said something in a thread about there being other ways to have mana acceleration than to base it on moxen.  He said to try basing it off Aether Vial and I was inspired.  What do you think?  It seems like it would inspire all kinds of reanimation hijinks, but that requires three cards to animate one.  Anyway, what do you think?

Current Version:
<Green Balanced Aether Vial> - 1GG
Enchantment
Discard a creature card from your hand: You may put a creature card with converted mana cost equal to the converted mana cost of the discarded card from your hand into play.[/B]
Logged

Magic Level 3 Judge
Southern USA Regional Coordinator

Quote from: H.L. Mencken
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.
Jacob Orlove
Official Time Traveller of TMD
Administrator
Basic User
*****
Posts: 8074


When am I?


View Profile Email
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2005, 05:12:02 pm »

This just seems broken. Discard random 8 mana guy, Akroma!
Logged

Team Meandeck: O Lord,
Guard my tongue from evil and my lips from speaking guile.
To those who slander me, let me give no heed.
May my soul be humble and forgiving to all.
Anusien
Adepts
Basic User
****
Posts: 3669


Anusien
View Profile
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2005, 05:35:05 pm »

My thought is, how is this any less broken than Putrid Imp, Creature, Reanimate?  This is slightly more expensive and requires two expensive fatties.

I kind of like the concept, and do acknowledge the possibility for broken.  Would adding a Reanimate type life cost make this more balanced?
Logged

Magic Level 3 Judge
Southern USA Regional Coordinator

Quote from: H.L. Mencken
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.
Matt
Post like a butterfly, Mod like a bee.
Moderator
Basic User
*****
Posts: 2297


King of the Jews!


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2005, 06:15:34 pm »

Dreams Halls for creatures is still Dream Halls.
Logged

http://www.goodgamery.com/pmo/c025.GIF
----------------------
SpenceForHire2k7: Its unessisary
SpenceForHire2k7: only spelled right
SpenceForHire2k7: <= world english teach evar
----------------------
noitcelfeRmaeT
{Team Hindsight}
Anusien
Adepts
Basic User
****
Posts: 3669


Anusien
View Profile
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2005, 06:29:12 pm »

Quote
[06:44pm] [JuJu] You should maybe put "Discard a creature card with cc of 5 or less and put a creature card from your hand into play with cc 5 or less

Would that help?  Or is the whole thing ridiculously overpowered?
Logged

Magic Level 3 Judge
Southern USA Regional Coordinator

Quote from: H.L. Mencken
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.
Ephraim
Moderator
Basic User
*****
Posts: 2938


The Casual Adept

LordZakath
View Profile
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2005, 07:56:18 pm »

Dreams Halls for creatures is still Dream Halls.

Dream Halls allows you to discard Suntail Hawk to get Akroma, though. This requires you to discard Avatar of Hope to get Akroma. Granted, you could also discard Avatar of Might to get Akroma, which Dream Halls won't let you do, but I think that converted mana cost is a much greater restriction than colour. Plus, it only works for creatures. I'm not saying that this isn't broken, but I don't think that the comparison to Dream Halls is merited. I'll have to think about this card before I deliver my final judgement.
Logged

Did you know that Red is the color or art and music and passion? Combine that with Green, the color of nature, spiritualism, and community and you get a hippie commune of drum circles, dreamcatchers, and recreational drug use. Let's see that win a Pro Tour.
wardo
ZOMG ITS TEH CONSPRIACY!!1
Basic User
**
Posts: 20


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2005, 08:00:13 pm »

My thought is, how is this any less broken than Putrid Imp, Creature, Reanimate?  This is slightly more expensive and requires two expensive fatties.

I kind of like the concept, and do acknowledge the possibility for broken.  Would adding a Reanimate type life cost make this more balanced?

Obviously two-cards combos are weaker than cards that are a combo by themselves. To me this just seems more broken than Aether Vial.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2005, 08:01:49 pm by wardo » Logged

Kong.
MrZuccinniHead
Basic User
**
Posts: 437


ShepherdOfSharks
View Profile
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2005, 11:51:30 pm »

i think this should cost 1 more mana.
Logged

Scopeless on mIRC

Quote from: Hi-Val talking about a girl covering herself with chrome moxen
I'd like to imprint My Cock on that. If she handles it right, it makes white mana.
Anusien
Adepts
Basic User
****
Posts: 3669


Anusien
View Profile
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2005, 02:55:15 pm »

*bump* I can see costing it at 2GG, but my question is, "Is this utterly reduced to brokendom?"
Logged

Magic Level 3 Judge
Southern USA Regional Coordinator

Quote from: H.L. Mencken
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.
Jacob Orlove
Official Time Traveller of TMD
Administrator
Basic User
*****
Posts: 8074


When am I?


View Profile Email
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2005, 12:34:59 pm »

Anything that lets you completely ignore casting costs is almost always going to be broken, unless you weaken it to the point of being unplayable (or, unplayable outside of combo, depending on the card).
Logged

Team Meandeck: O Lord,
Guard my tongue from evil and my lips from speaking guile.
To those who slander me, let me give no heed.
May my soul be humble and forgiving to all.
asmoranomardicodais
Basic User
**
Posts: 318


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2005, 03:09:37 pm »

Make it a four mana sorcery. That way, it will always be weaker than natural order. 
Logged
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.037 seconds with 21 queries.