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« on: August 09, 2005, 07:42:48 pm » |
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Will this phenomenon ever end about Morphling?
It is played in no format (well T4 it's good), you have to have six mana to play it and keep it alive for one turn, and I think it inspires more creamed shorts by newbs than 6 pages full of foil Llanowar Elves. Also they always speak with blissfull glee rolling down the sides of their mouth about how it will probably be reprinted in the next set (Morphling is on the reserve list correct?).
Is there an answer?
What other cards irritate you in this manner?
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2005, 07:46:42 pm » |
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Sneak Attack, my god. EVERYONE has a Sneak Attack deck, and they're ALL poorly built, even for Sneak Attack decks.
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2005, 08:15:07 pm » |
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At least morphling was the king at one point in Type ones history. Id rather see them talk about how awsome it is then Craw Wurm or Shivan Dragon.
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2005, 08:21:18 pm » |
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Morphling was a dominant creature for many, many years. Much like the quickly overpowered Serra Angel, some cards hold a mythos and hold onto their glory too long. That said, Morphling is no creature to turn your nose up at. It works great in casual and semi-competitive T1 games, not to mention less than 2 years ago it was killing thousands of players a month at the top of the T1 tier! I think even Smemmen played it at Gencon last year.
Remember, it takes awhile for "tech", or lack of, to trickle down to casual players.
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2005, 08:31:44 pm » |
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Morphling was the kill of choice for the best control decks until it was outclassed by better cards in better decks. The fact that it held this position for so long means that many people still feel strongly about it being a dominant card, even though in today's Vintage metagame, it is crap.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2005, 02:23:42 am » |
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You also have to remember that casual players play casual decks against other casual decks. In a casual blue deck playing against other casual decks, Morphling is the shit.
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2005, 03:11:20 am » |
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Just like the outdated term p9 morphling will hold its place in magic history as the best way to kill your opponent (at the time). Just because we have better creatures nowadays is no reason to bash him. I don't see people bashing timetwister other than the argument that its not the 9th best card(which is sooo true). If a newb sees the card and gets excited, let them. As ivantheterrible said, Its better they get excited over morphling than craw wurm or shivie.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2005, 02:26:27 am » |
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There was a time when Shivan was thought to be the best creature in the game as well.
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2005, 03:17:43 am » |
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Just to put things in perspective, of the three blue cards in the P9, timetwister was the nuttiest way back before anything was restricted. And yes I did play then. Come to think of it, it would still be the most powerful of the three if they were unrestricted, simply because timetwister can shuffle other timetwisters back into your deck. Stop hatin' on good old twister.
I agree on sneak attack though...I know legacy players that still insist it's awsome.
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2005, 07:13:53 am » |
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a while back i won a mox and decided to sell it. When you think you have seen drewl when noobs see morphling, try imagine if they see any one card of the P9. You have to use napkins to keep them from wetting you trading cards.
Ultimately i decided to put it somewhere else as i sold it to a friend i hardly saw at the time.
It is adamant that whenever you see P9, duals or AN/LE cards, most people will want to see those cards and are willing to trade their chap for your good cards. People are so cool that way.
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2005, 10:30:38 am » |
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What is up with this condescending attitude towards new players?
This is a really stupid thread, and I don't understand why it was started. To "Up" your post count? To maybe have this "phenomenon"-al breakthrough idea and "WOW" a TMD Moderator or Admin and get access to all the super secret secrets?
Morphling isn't that bad of a card. It's just not used in today's environment, and perhaps someday it will return to the "metagame" ...
Please go crawl into a ditch and die.
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2005, 12:34:37 pm » |
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There was a time when Shivan was thought to be the best creature in the game as well.
If you're talking about Alpha, Northern Paladin was widely seen as the best creature. Everyone played black because there was no COP: Black, and the Paladin would just destroy those decks. Shivan wasn't really good until Volcanic Island showed up in Beta so you could play U/R, and by then people kind of knew what they were doing, and realized that random fatties weren't that amazing.
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2005, 01:04:45 pm » |
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Jacob: That would have been a very amusing format... I only started in Revised, so I didn't get any of that. Funny how the two cards they left out could be so format defining.
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2005, 01:56:45 pm » |
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I think that every single meta was different during that period of magic. At least i know in my area, you only had to go 10 miles to see a different meta. Hell, most of the people didn't even have a full set.
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2005, 02:29:27 pm » |
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There was a time when Shivan was thought to be the best creature in the game as well.
Yea, but that was back before magic was up on its feet and because there was not much better. As i recall Serra got more play than shivan.
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2005, 05:08:21 pm » |
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Anything prior to the release of Legends doesn't count. That's the black hole of Magic history.
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2005, 05:21:00 pm » |
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Morphling isn't very good, but he isn't horrible either.
Morphling was amazing at a time when targeted removal was king and the built in untargetability was a source of enormous card advantage (not to mention the pumping back and forth). Today, decks are far too fast for Morphling in general. But he is still a decent finisher for mono blue or URphid.
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2005, 05:28:41 pm » |
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Morphling was also the biggest creature around for a long time. Since Blastoderm though we've been seeing many, many more large creatures, priced to compete - Kokusho, Roar of the Wurm, Arrogant Wurm, Wild Mongrel, Werebear, Goblin Pilderiver, Arcbound Ravager, Cranial Plating, Goblin Welder (technically a 7/10), Mystic Enforcer, Quirion Dryad, and of course Psychatog. Even those large creatures which Morphling CAN kill (like Werebear) require large amounts of mana to do so.
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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2005, 12:28:49 am » |
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Forgetting other older cards Kird ape Ali from cario- Use to be huge Avatar of woe Ernham djinn It's really screwed up when you look at the game now think about what decks use to be huge Kird ape channel ball Ernham burn emm Ermageddon Tittania balance ZOO-use to love this deck still play it now and again I almost things went back to these decks before combo and control was a factor.
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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2005, 02:07:21 am » |
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Kird ape channel ball Ernham burn emm Ermageddon Tittania balance ZOO-use to love this deck still play it now and again I almost things went back to these decks before combo and control was a factor. Your forgetting a saucy little number called The Deck. Wiessman played control from the get go and he beat every deck youve mentioned with his answer to everything.dec
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2005, 12:50:38 am » |
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I disagree that Northern Paladin was every widely recognized as the BEST creature in the game during the early stages. However, if you look at the really old Scrye magazines or ask people who used to deal and play back then (myself included); they might remember that Shivan and Black Lotus were both worth the same price, and were the two most expensive cards in the game.
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