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« on: August 19, 2005, 03:28:47 pm »

Dweomer Restoration
UU4
Instant
Remove target instant or sorcery card in any graveyard from the game.  Make a copy of that spell and add it to the stack.  If the spell has X in the mana cost, X is 0.

All purpose trick and one-shot Yawgmoth's Will.  I can see some potential for abuse when using it to recur a particularly powerful sorcery, but at 6 mana I think it balances out.   However, I suck at judging a card's power on paper.   

I supose with some self milling and/or the likes of Intuition this could be used as part of some kind of combo where Blue gets to use a card it normally could not, but again, at 6 mana I don't think it would be too powerful. 

Most importantly, I think it looks fun.  I love instant tricks with a variety of uses.


Dweomer Restoration
UU4
Instant
Remove target instant or sorcery card in any graveyard from the game.  Make a copy of that spell and add it to the stack.  If the spell has X in the mana cost, X is 0.
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2005, 03:36:11 pm »

Why would I play this over Relearn?
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2005, 03:55:40 pm »

Relearn is a sorcery, and this lets you copy a spell in any graveyard, not just your own.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2005, 07:51:03 pm »

Whats with the funky name?
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2005, 12:38:09 am »

Dweomer is an old word for magic.  I think it's pronounced "dwimmer", but I don't know.  I'm not stuck on the name.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2005, 09:52:21 am »

If you all don't like this then please say so it can be closed and I can move on.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2005, 02:12:17 pm »

This looks rather nrrow and at 6 mana would rarely get played. Having said that because it includes the cost of the spell being replayed you can't really reduce it below 6 mana. I think this card could do with options such as:

Channel 3U Return target Instant or Sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand

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Cycling 2 and remove Instant or Sorcery card in your graveyard from the game

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Dweomer Restoration
UU
Instant
Remove target instant or sorcery card in any graveyard from the game.
Kicker 4  Make a copy of that spell and add it to the stack. If the spell has X in the mana cost, X is 0.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2005, 02:17:29 pm »

How about lowering the cost to make it a bit better, say 2UU, though it is strictly better than relearn for only 1 more so maybe add some kind of drawback( RFGing the target card isnt a drawback in type one, its just like recouping your card or a narrow coffin purge if you dont want an opponent yawg willing a given card or some such). maybe

2UU
Instant
Discard two cards
and Remove target instant or sorcery card in any graveyard from the game.
Put a copy of that spell on the stack,  If the spell has X in the mana cost, X is 0.[
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2005, 02:47:01 pm »

My god man that's vicious card disadvantage.  Discarding might be a good idea to lower the cost from 6 and provide an interesting twist though!

NAME
2UU  (3UU?)
As an additional cost to play ~this~ discard a card from your hand.
Remove target (an?) instant or sorcery card in any graveyard from the game and put a copy of that spell on the stack.  If the spell has X in its mana cost, X is 0.

Idea is to be able to discard an instant or sorcery and play it with this as well as just the cards already in graves.  Since the RFG is on resolution the bomb you just laid down could be stopped too.  I just think it's good to have options like "do I play this now with the removal card in the grave or do I wait to draw my bomb sorcery?"
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2005, 01:33:14 pm »

My god man that's vicious card disadvantage.  Discarding might be a good idea to lower the cost from 6 and provide an interesting twist though!

NAME
2UU  (3UU?)
As an additional cost to play ~this~ discard a card from your hand.
Remove target (an?) instant or sorcery card in any graveyard from the game and put a copy of that spell on the stack.  If the spell has X in its mana cost, X is 0.

Idea is to be able to discard an instant or sorcery and play it with this as well as just the cards already in graves.  Since the RFG is on resolution the bomb you just laid down could be stopped too.  I just think it's good to have options like "do I play this now with the removal card in the grave or do I wait to draw my bomb sorcery?"
That doesn't work - your target is chosen before costs are paid.  It is however interesting, although I'd like to see it at 3UU + 1 discard, or 2UU + 2 discard.
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2005, 07:46:56 pm »

Why not have it just remove your whole graveyardfrom the game? that prevents it from being too good in multiples and hoses most T1 strategies that casn afford UU.

Restoration:
Sorcery
2UU
Remove your graveyard from the game. Until End of turn, you may play an instant or sorcery card removed this way w/o paying its mana cost.
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2005, 09:31:39 pm »

Why not have it just remove your whole graveyardfrom the game? that prevents it from being too good in multiples and hoses most T1 strategies that casn afford UU.

Restoration:
Sorcery
2UU
Remove your graveyard from the game. Until End of turn, you may play an instant or sorcery card removed this way w/o paying its mana cost.
-Slay
If you go with this, you need the customary "X=0" clause. C/P it from Mind's Desire.
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2005, 10:19:43 pm »

there is no need to have it remove your graveyard, its just relearn with some extra card loss ( to equate to casting the spell thus you'd lose a card)
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2005, 08:08:36 am »

I like dandan's kicker version and I like Slay's "remove your graveyard" version.  I'm not sure which of those two to go with.
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2005, 02:18:12 pm »

umm we did it again guys::::

Ravnica spolier yielded this gem of a card:

Sins of the Past
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Until end of turn, you may play target instant or sorcery card in your graveyard without paying its mana cost. If that card would be put into your graveyard this turn, remove it from the game instead. Remove Sins of the Past from the game.
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