TheManaDrain.com
February 14, 2026, 12:59:11 am *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News:
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Back in the Game  (Read 3332 times)
Based
Basic User
**
Posts: 9


View Profile
« on: August 28, 2005, 09:46:47 am »

Hey guys.

I used to keep up with Type I pretty well.  I was a long-time lurker/short-time poster at bdominia before it went down.

I'd love to get back into the game, but I feel really overwhelmed by the new metagame.  Some decks are new, some decks sound familiar but my memory has faded.  The primers are all of older decks (unless Nether Void is back in style).  I've looked through some of the tournament reports on this site and while they're excellent, they rightly assume that most readers know the deck.

How do you suggest I become reacquainted with T1?
Logged
tdickinson
Basic User
**
Posts: 20


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2005, 10:53:52 am »

Welcome back!

I got back into Magic after a somewhat long break about 2 years ago. What worked really well for me was to pick up an older deck I was familiar with (Sui =x) and just start playing people on MWS. As I watched the newer decks in operation I got a better feel for what they did, until finally I picked up Worldgorger Dragon combo myself.

Just as a (way too) brief summary of a few of today's decks, I'll just give you a brief rundown of these.

Control Slaver: Recognized by Goblin Welder, Mindslaver, and either Pentavus or Crucible of Worlds and an Artifact Land. The deck uses Mana Drain  to ramp up huge amounts of mana quickly, then infinitely Mindslavers the opponent with the aforementioned cards. Usually wins with Pentavus, Triskelion, or Welder beats, although Tinker->Darksteel Colossus has been showing up more frequently lately.

Stax: A few different varieties have shown up lately, but the most prevalent has been Uba Stax, which uses Uba Mask, Bazaar of Baghdad and sometimes MD Null Rod. This deck is mono-red. The other prevalent build is 5C Stax, which on top of the normal Stax components runs White for Balance and possibly STP, and Blue for draw and usually In The Eye of Chaos. I've also seen Chains of Mephistopheles on a few occasions. Someone else might want to give a better description of Stax, I'm not the most familiar person with it.

Fish: Fish is an Aggro-Control deck that uses creatures such as Meddling Mage, Rootwater Thief, Cloud of Faeries, Basking Rootwalla and Wild Mongrel. Most current builds are either U/W or U/G. Umezawa's Jitte and Aether Vial are two important cards in making Fish competitive. It usually runs a large ammount of disruption in the form of Wastelands, Chalice of the Voids and/or Null Rods.

Gifts: Gifts is the newest deck on this list, being created by the Meandeckers shortly after Gifts Ungiven was printed. The deck is U/R/B, and runs cards like Gifts Ungiven and Mana Drain. It wins with either Tendrils of Agony (In the sideboard, retrieved with Burning Wish) or Darksteel Colossus and Time Walk. The decks sets itself up to be in complete control of the game, and then casts Gifts Ungiven for some combination of Tinker, Recoup, Yawgmoth's Will, Time Walk and Burning Wish.
Along the way the Gifts player will usually cast other copies of Gifts for whatever they need at the moment, be it mana, counters, or card advantage.

I think those are the big four at the moment, but someone else might want to elaborate on what I've written and add in decks I've left out, such as Oath, Dragon, Long, FCG and Workshop Aggro
Logged
Based
Basic User
**
Posts: 9


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2005, 12:19:28 pm »

Thanks!  I'm DLing what I need for MWS right now.

It's nice to see that new cards are making appearances in the format.
Logged
TimeWizzle
Basic User
**
Posts: 51


View Profile Email
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2005, 11:33:16 am »

I would recommend reading through this article by Ted Knutson (of Starcity Games) that has some overviews of Type I (called Vintage now) and several decklists to give you a better idea what's in what.  Also the clickable card names are handy if you don't know what something does. 

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgevent/vintage05/welcome
Logged

The wayward son of Arsenal
Green Knight
Full Members
Basic User
***
Posts: 177



View Profile Email
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2005, 12:25:09 pm »

I would also suggest reading through the tournament reports here: http://www.themanadrain.com/forums/index.php?board=43.0 the Gen Con reports are very insightful as to today’s metagame.
Logged

Colorado Crew: Re-examine all you have been told... Dismiss what insults your soul.
“It’s not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of fight in the dog.” - Vince Lombardi
argylekilla
Basic User
**
Posts: 7


View Profile Email
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2005, 11:28:48 pm »

Hey, i have to thank you guys for this post too. I just got back in after a 5 year hiatus and am finding it increasingly difficult to get back to the comfort level i once enjoyed. If i read a report or decklist, i have to first find out what KSOIEK 8klanet means (or whatever combination of letters and numbers that is used as the name of the deck) and then look up EVERY CARD ON THE DECKLIST... and of course, some cards have nicknames that I cannot decipher... either way, thanks for the links
Logged
49 Cents
Basic User
**
Posts: 591


Von Dutch


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2005, 11:39:12 am »

Also, you might even want to try the Starcity Games premium memberchip. The have really cool articles about Type 1, written by Pro's like Stephen Menendian and the like. You can find SCG here: www.starcitygames.com.
Logged

Team TDC: The man with a new idea is a fool. Unless the idea turns out to be a succes.

www.BeNeLegacy.nl - For all your Legacy
xrizzo
Basic User
**
Posts: 243


xrizzo
View Profile WWW
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2005, 01:35:02 pm »

Also, you might even want to try the Starcity Games premium memberchip. The have really cool articles about Type 1, written by Pro's like Stephen Menendian and the like. You can find SCG here: www.starcitygames.com.

If you can't (or don't want to join) all the articles become free 6 months after their initial posting anyway... 

Another way to get familiar is start playing a top tier deck (say control slaver) and take it to a tourney.  You will find out really quickly what else is out there.  Along the way, you get a chance to win prizes and it only costs like $20.

I have a bunch of staples available in non-foil versions that I am too lazy to sell on ebay, PM if interested.
Logged

TWL - all top 8's, no talk.
"If the pilgrims landed in Los Angeles, the east coast would still be uninhabited."
Boltbait
Basic User
**
Posts: 6

jakeg100
View Profile
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2005, 02:51:17 pm »

Hey Saltz, welcome back! I just got back into the game too, and have slowly been absorbing all the new cards and decks.
Logged
LotusHead
Full Members
Basic User
***
Posts: 2785


Team Vacaville


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2005, 02:11:13 am »

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=17797

Lunar wrote up a pretty neat intro to Type 1 (Vintage) Magic at the above link.  It doesn't go over everything, but does cover a lot of ground and has nifty deck lists to go along with it and explanations.

It's a good read, so check it out.

Also, for those that have been out for a few years, many rules have changed in technicality, so playing against people up on their rules or thoroughly reading the comprehensive rules (on www.magicthegathering.com somewhere) is a good idea eventually.
Logged

Disburden
Basic User
**
Posts: 602


Blue Blue, Drain you.

TheSkyScreams
View Profile
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2005, 11:33:28 am »

Also, you might even want to try the Starcity Games premium memberchip. The have really cool articles about Type 1, written by Pro's like Stephen Menendian and the like. You can find SCG here: www.starcitygames.com.

If you can't (or don't want to join) all the articles become free 6 months after their initial posting anyway... 

Another way to get familiar is start playing a top tier deck (say control slaver) and take it to a tourney.  You will find out really quickly what else is out there.  Along the way, you get a chance to win prizes and it only costs like $20.

I have a bunch of staples available in non-foil versions that I am too lazy to sell on ebay, PM if interested.

In six months all those articles will lose 60% of their importance since the meta game will change by then anyway. I wouldn't want to read an article about Stax when Trinisphere was a four of in the deck. I would be misinformed.

The premium account is absolutely wonderful. I have had it for six months, paid hardly nothing for it and have read countless of amazing articles from it that are up to date.
Logged

Unrestrict: Library of Alexandria and Burning Wish.

Location: Carmel, NY (Putnam County)
Jacob Orlove
Official Time Traveller of TMD
Administrator
Basic User
*****
Posts: 8074


When am I?


View Profile Email
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2005, 12:58:21 pm »

Technically, premium content becomes free after 3 months, not 6. Buying a yearly subscription is only $30, though, which works out to something like $2.50 a month.
Logged

Team Meandeck: O Lord,
Guard my tongue from evil and my lips from speaking guile.
To those who slander me, let me give no heed.
May my soul be humble and forgiving to all.
bdg4life
Basic User
**
Posts: 92


georgegoanos@hotmail.com bdg4life bdg4life
View Profile
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2005, 04:14:34 pm »

A while back Jason Pilarski did a nifty T1 breakdown and matchup analysis. It hasnt been updated with some of the newer decks like Gifts or uba stax, but its a fine starting point and gives you an idea of what some of the decks are trying to do.
http://ca.geocities.com/pilarskijics4m/index.htm
Logged

ARSENAL
Savannah, GA Chapter
THE Vintage Powerhouse of the South.
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.052 seconds with 17 queries.