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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2005, 04:22:28 pm » |
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Holy shit, you fucking destroyed Eddie. Damn!
Anyways, what was the rest of the top 8?
Jdizzle playing Belcher
Vroman playing (assuming) Uba Stax
Manuel playing CS
Jim Erlinger playing CS
Brian Fisher playing Shop Slaver
??? playing Dragon
2 others playing 2 unknown decks
What was the meta like? All I got from teammates so far was that 3 of them played GWS Oath, and they saw 3 other people playing it also. That sounds like the perfect tournament to bring Deathlong or Belcher too, as they both roll Oath.
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2005, 04:56:54 pm » |
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the argument between MWS and tomb in the SB of belcher is kinda an old one, since the older versions of 2-land belcher were running Living Wish as well..
MWS is mana acceleration off living wish....you pay 2 mana to get 3...
tomb though you are correct since it can be used next turn to spend on belcher...
the point of the original lists though were on turn 1 or 2 when you are trying to win, you want 7 mana period. if you go from 2 into 3 then that is better than 2 into 2 regardless of its usability next turn or not since they are trying to win NOW not LATER.
I have run the tomb personally in builds when I didnt have the proxy space for a workshop in there, and it was almost always terrible when I could have otherwise had workshop. It seems like you are just conceding the fact that you cant win now so you will try to take a card that might let you when later...
They both obviously have their merrits, its just a different path of thinking with 2-land belcher. (from what ive seen anyways) The point wasnt to pay for dark rituals under sphere it was to pay for the belcher itself, then use your other mana for the activation that turn...
Other than that have there been any other options besides the negator? in the past you could tinker for DSC after SB, but I like the idea of living wish being able to turn rit into a win condition...but while control does little against negator (short of dropping DSC into play, or maybe pentavus) you still have a dead creature against fish/fcg/shopaggro (does that still exist enogh to matter)/UbaStax with triskelion/dragon with an animated hellkite/etc etc etc...negator is a flawed card and belcher doesnt feel like a good deck to lose permanents with...I LOVE the idea, but might there be another choice for this spot.....
Anyhow, now that the boring card choice stuff is out of the way...congrats!!!! yay combo. And through some serious players as well, very nice. Keep up the entertaining reports
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2005, 05:06:00 pm » |
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Fisher made top 8 playing GWS Workshop Slaver.
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2005, 05:14:03 pm » |
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Congrats on the win. I was too tired to hang out until the end, after losing to Vroman in the first round of the T8. There wasn't much to say about both our games. Uba Stax pretty much wasted me, as he got lock components in place very quickly in both games and it was an uphill battle from there. It was nice to see the deck in action but sucked losing to it. Especially since only the top 2 got prize  I was also your 2nd round opponent (playing CS) |
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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2005, 06:45:34 pm » |
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Fisher made top 8 playing GWS Workshop Slaver.
AKA their version of ICBM's Gilded Claw. Which by the way has served several GWS members =-P |
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2005, 07:01:40 pm » |
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JDizzle is my hero. Dude, your so good at combo. Congrats on your big win.
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2005, 07:19:07 pm » |
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Congrats JDizzle, I also finished in the T8 with a UR Stax varient of my own creation.
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2005, 08:53:58 pm » |
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The meta was lots of Slaver, as you might be able to figure out. I mean there were 3 in T8, and I played it 3 times on the day. There were a few with Uba Stax (Vroman and Ogre), not a lot of traditional or Cron Stax. I didn't see any Gifts or other Mana Drain decks. There were the GWS Oath builds (I didn't see anyone not from GWS with it, but I could have missed it). There were 2 people playing Long, which is ironic, because it's never happened that there's been other people playing "my deck" when I'm not... Negator...I LOVE the idea, but might there be another choice for this spot..... If you can think of what it is, please tell me. I couldn't come up with anything better. It just stays in the board and is accessed when its needed. Against Joblins and aggro and stuff, you don't need to wish for a creature, cause you should have 0 problem resolving anything, unless you get a hand like the one I got. But even then, Joblins gives you 3-4 turns to draw something, and everything you play will resolve, so... |
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2005, 09:50:14 pm » |
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Hey,
I ran the tournament (I'm Jeremy), and I'll type up the decklists this week and try to have them up ASAP... Typing up these T1 decklists is a lot harder than 1.5 lists- something about a lot of one ofs.
Overall, it was a great weekend though- We'll (the local crew) look into getting another event running sometime this coming Spring if we can.
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2005, 01:42:53 pm » |
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Ogre was playing 5C workshop aggro. afaik I was the only ubastax present.
Top 8 as far as I remember was:
1/2 Justin Droba - RBG Belcher
1/2 Robert Vroman - Uba Stax
3/4 Jacob Bouvet - Dragon
3/4 Brian Fisher - Shop Slaver
5-8 Jim Erlinger - CS
5-8 Jacob Riehm - UR stax
5-8 [iccarus] - CS
5-8 Manuel - CS
rd 1
vroman vs iccarus - vroman
erlinger vs droba - droba
bouvet vs riehm - bouvet
fisher vs manuel - fisher
rd 2
vroman vs fisher - vroman
droba vs bouvet - droba
finals split
Im writing a report also, as I have much to say about this event. should be up tonight
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2005, 11:22:55 pm » |
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rd 1
vroman vs iccarus - vroman
erlinger vs droba - droba
bouvet vs riehm - bouvet
fisher vs manuel - fisher
I'm Jacob, the Dragon player, and just for clarification I played Manuel in round 1. |
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2005, 11:55:58 am » |
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JDizzle - Congrats! 2 Land Belcher is what got me back into MtG over a year ago, and I'm glad to see that it still has some life in it. I just wanted to get your thoughts on Grim Monolith vs. Chrome Mox? Both provide a total of 1 accelerated mana, however the mox can provide a reusable colored mana source. The mox is also an independent mana source, by independent I mean that it doesn't require another mana source already in play in order to play it, though it does require a colored card in hand. It also has great synergy with Elvish Spirit Guide but poor synergy with Welders (though it is a good way to ditch extra welders). Obviously you prefer the monolith, since you ran it over the mox, but I'm just interested to hear your thoughts on the matter. Thanks for your time!
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2005, 12:40:31 pm » |
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What are you going to become the super pimp of Belcher too now?
Great Report, congrats on the power.
Btw, Turtle, I cut Chrome Mox from my Belcher list about a year ago because it sucked having to imprint important cards to just get a colored mana. Monolith can power out a lot of mana in one shot. Having to imprint a Dark Ritual for Black or something else for Red mana is the ass sometimes.
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2005, 03:10:21 pm » |
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Way to go JD. Sorry you didn't do so hot with Iggy-pop. It can be a tricky deck at times, just play it a lot. There has been a good deal of discussion about it on the legacy boards and ChemEng just placed second at the Louisville KY GPT with it.
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2005, 08:48:45 pm » |
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I thought that negator was real and just sharpied on at the tourney. very cool
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2005, 08:52:47 pm » |
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I thought that negator was real and just sharpied on at the tourney. very cool
Thanks yo. I got the idea from all your amazing stuff. |
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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2005, 09:11:31 pm » |
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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2005, 01:09:35 am » |
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Nice job JD. I hope to see you in Richmond!
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2005, 03:44:43 am » |
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good job, dizzle i guess its a good thing that you didn't trade me the foil canbal rituals for my belcher deck, eh?
hope to see you at scg richmond, ill be bringing the recient time walk winner paul nicolo!
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