Rain of Filth

[Moxlotus]

I cast Rain of Filth.  Can I sacrifice lands that I play later in the turn?

[epeeguy]

I cast Rain of Filth.  Can I sacrifice lands that I play later in the turn?

No.  It only gives that ability to lands that are in play when it resolves (this is similar to how a creature played after Hideous Laughter doesn't get the -2/-2).

[Moxlotus]

Wow, the judges who watched multiple matches of my friend playing it wrong never said anything at GenCon.

[Matt]

...what format did you cast a Rain of Filth in? Legacy?

[epeeguy]

Wow, the judges who watched multiple matches of my friend playing it wrong never said anything at GenCon.

I'm sorry to hear that.  But it is covered by the following rule:

418.3b Continuous effects from spells, activated abilities, and triggered abilities that modify the characteristics or change the controller of one or more objects don’t affect objects that weren’t affected when the continuous effect began. Note that these work differently than continuous effects from static abilities. Continuous effects that don’t modify characteristics or change the controller of objects modify the rules of the game, so they can affect objects that weren’t affected when the continuous effect began.

Which is different from continuous effects like Glorious Anthem or Crusade, which apply as long as they are in play.  Effects generated from a resolving spell or ability don't do that.

[Komatteru]

Holy crap, that means that trick with Second Sunrise doesn't work, since the lands forget the ability when they leave play.  Well, there's a round I shouldn't have lost.  Oh well.  So much for GWS's SecondSunrise.dec in Legacy...

[epeeguy]

Holy crap, that means that trick with Second Sunrise doesn't work, since the lands forget the ability when they leave play.  Well, there's a round I shouldn't have lost.  Oh well.  So much for GWS's SecondSunrise.dec in Legacy...

Correct on that account as well.  If the lands leave and return to play, they are treated as "new" lands and forget anything about their previous existence.

[Moxlotus]

Holy crap, that means that trick with Second Sunrise doesn't work, since the lands forget the ability when they leave play.  Well, there's a round I shouldn't have lost.  Oh well.  So much for GWS's SecondSunrise.dec in Legacy...

Yep, that deck is officially in the trash now.  I still can't believe that not one judge said anything in the Legacy Champs while half of them were watching Eric go off. 

Eric Becker is a cheater of epic proportions.  Who else can cheat in front of so many judges and not get caught?

[epeeguy]

Yep, that deck is officially in the trash now.  I still can't believe that not one judge said anything in the Legacy Champs while half of them were watching Eric go off. 

Eric Becker is a cheater of epic proportions.  Who else can cheat in front of so many judges and not get caught?

To be fair, both the player and the judges could have missed that interaction and not been aware of that particular section of the CompRules.  In and of itself, that's still not very good to have seen (and certainly I'm not happy as a judge that it happened), but it may not have been intentional on anyone's part.  It could be just simple ignorance through which this happened.

That being said, hopefully this will ensure that such an incident doesn't happen again to anyone.  Whether accidentally or purposefully.