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« on: September 27, 2005, 09:29:14 pm »

Hey guys im hopeing someone in the connecticut area namely anyone that goes to dragons lair in west hartford, ct. A man named luis rivera came into a store tonight i was playing at grabbed my deck infront of 6 people and ran, and boy did he run. I couldnt catch him. But i know his name and so do the police. I also know where he plays and who he plays with. Only problem is the police dont know his address.

So does anyone know him or know his address?

If you know him all i really want is my cards back. Given the value of the cards stolen the police are heavily involved and are serious about arresting him. Id rather just have my cards back then him being arrested. So if you know him please give me a and him a hand. Because i will eventually find him now that i know his name.

Thank you guys im sure someone will help since this is such a tight community.
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2005, 09:39:29 pm »

Moved to basic community, because this is the right forum, and because you'll get more visibility here.
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2005, 10:09:26 pm »

The man stole your cards in front of numerous people and you don't want to press charges when he is fount? =/
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2005, 12:41:13 am »

Charge the fucker.  I hate thieves.
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2005, 12:51:10 am »

Charge the fucker.  I hate thieves.

I concur.
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2005, 12:54:32 am »

Google says:
Luis Rivera - (860) 951-7488 - 12 Arnold St, Hartford, CT 06106
Luis Rivera - (860) 293-1463 - 24 Putnam Hts, Hartford, CT 06106
Luis Rivera - (860) 953-1457 - 46 Sprague St, Hartford, CT 06106
Luis Rivera - (860) 296-9654 - 50 Elliott St, Hartford, CT 06114
Luis D Rivera - (860) 206-6116 - 66 Hamilton St, Hartford, CT 06106
Luis H Rivera - (860) 232-7638 - 21 Frederick St, Hartford, CT 06105

http://www.google.com/search?sa=X&oi=fwp&pb=f&q=luis+rivera+CT+hartford

Hope it helps a little.
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2005, 03:39:04 am »

Hey guys im hopeing someone in the connecticut area namely anyone that goes to dragons lair in west hartford, ct. A man named luis rivera came into a store tonight i was playing at grabbed my deck infront of 6 people and ran, and boy did he run. I couldnt catch him. But i know his name and so do the police. I also know where he plays and who he plays with. Only problem is the police dont know his address.

This is my line of work, so I'll try to give you some pointers as best as I can.  Here are some questions:

*  Did you get a police report number with an Officer's name?
*  When can you reference this number so you can obtain the police report?
*  How much was your deck worth?  This will determine if this will be a misdamenor (Petty Theft) or a felony crime (Grand Theft).  If your deck's value breaks the felony threshold in your state, more priortiy should be given to your case.
* If you were given a report number, (which you should have if the Police responded), have you followed up with the Officer that took the report?  What has he/she done since you filed?
* Has the Police Officer questioned the subject's friends? 
* Luis Rivera is a pretty common name.  You'll need to obtain a correct Date Of Birth if you want to get an address.
* Is the subject in question a juvenile or an adult?
* Are you an adult or juvenile?  If this is a misdamenor, are you prepared to make a citizen's arrest?
* Can you identity a the thief?  What did he look like?  Could you pick him out of a photo lineup?
* If it's a juvenile, ask his friends what school he attends.  The police can then go directly to the school, now that they have a report to follow up with, and the school administration will most likely assist with locating the juvenile in class and/or hand over the subjects address.  Often times, the Police will not have a juvenile's address on file because they haven't acquired a Driver's License yet.
*  Whether the subject is an adult or juvenile, ask the Police Officer taking the report, to run an "In-House" check on the subject's name in order to reference previous Police contacts with a "Luis Rivera".  This is another way to obtain an address.  Most likely this person has stolen before and has some type of file.  Anytime anyone's name gets "run out", the name gets logged in that department's "in house" database.  Also aske the Police Officer to run an "In-House" check with neighboring cities.  Often times neighboring cities will link up their suspect databases.
*  If this person has been in trouble before, hopefully he/she is on some sort of probation, which can be a tremendous assest in recovering you cards.
* Do you have any proof that you owned those cards.  I encourage everyone to videotape or photograph their valuable assests so they have some evidence of ownership.  Very important.
* Have you spoken with this subjects friends?  What did they say?
* Have you spoken with the store owners of where this kid plays and hopefully buys his cards?  Ask them if he has purchased anything recently.  If so, get that Officer to speak with that store owner.  In my experiences, store owners will hand over receipts or customer information without a warrant.  They hate thiefs just as much as the next guy.

It sucks having your property ripped off.  No doubt about it.  To be brutally honest, your case probably isn't as high a priority for the Police as you may wish.  A lot of crimes could be solved if the Police simply had more resources they could spend to investigate all leads.  Most likely they are on to other investigations.  However, you can still do a lot on your own to assist them.  It's incumbant upon you to actively pursue this on your own.

Talk to other players in the area.  Offer some reward for information.  Clearly someone knows something that can help you out.  In my opinion, this is some kid younger than 16 years old that did this.  He ran from the scene so he doesn't drive.  He most likely is local, and if he isn't, he's a short bus ride away.  People that don't drive don't take long bus trips to play magic.  If he's local, he attends school somewhere.  Once you get identify the school, the police can identify your thief.  Good Luck.
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2005, 06:20:57 am »

Wow ...
Thats ... totally crazy!

I can't imagine someone doing that to me.
I hope you find the guy who did this, and I hope you get your cards returned.
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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2005, 10:03:30 am »

Here's an idea for the police to obtain an address:

Clearly, this guy plays Magic, and it is likely he has a DCI number.  If he's played in a sanctioned tournament at this store, then they'll have it on file.  The police could obtain it from Wizards.  If the value of your deck is high enough, they'll certainly take the time to track down the address, since they don't take felonies lightly.  In addition, reporting this information to the DCI is likely to get some action as well.  Theft is certainly against the DCI floor rules.  This man deserves to be banned for life from playing Magic for this.
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2005, 10:24:33 am »

There are also websites that do background checks on people and provide you with all sorts of information. These often cost money and if he is a minor then I am not sure how much they would help. I hope you catch the guy because I hate thieves! Oh and be smart if you find the guy and he isn't going anywhere (like playing at the local store) call the cops on him, don't confront him and take a chance of personal injury. Have the cops bust him and haul him off in cuffs. I can't believe you wouldn't press charges but that is up to you. Lastly, check about renters/home owner's insurance because if worse comes to worse you may be able to recover some of the cost of what you lost.
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2005, 10:29:15 am »

Hey thank you all for the help. The deck is worth aproximatly 2000 dollars but probably a little less. he is 19 or 20 but no one is really sure.

I was way ahead of you on the DCI thing heres a link to him if anyones interested and its already been forwarded to my officer on the case. Who i might add seems very serious about finding this guy.

http://webapp.wizards.com/dciranking/details.asp?player=1641814

Unfortunatly i dont know the friends names but i know when and where they play so ill be visiting them later.

Ill Keep you guys updated as the day goes on.
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2005, 10:45:42 am »

Also remember this: if he's sold or otherwise lost your cards, you are entitled to the replacement value of those cards.  Unlike destruction, which gets you what you paid for the item, a theft entitles you to have your item replaced.  Since you played that day, I'm sure there are numerous eyewitnesses to confirm what cards were in your deck (perhaps you even turned in a decklist for an event recently?).
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2005, 08:26:26 pm »

Just make sure it gets replaced as a fully-powered version. 

Standard type 2 fare, and then power 9, library,drains, shops (to cast those moxes in case they have a sphere of resistance out), and bazaars (to toss the shops/timetwister).

Beta/foil/japanese foil where necessary.

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