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« on: October 05, 2005, 05:51:56 am »

Lands: 24

4 Flooded Strand
4 Wasteland
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Tundra
1 Strip Mine
1 Plains
6 Island

Creatures: 17

4 Meddling Mage
4 Waterfront Bouncer
4 Cloud of Faeries
3 Rootwater Thief
2 Ninja of the Deep Hours

Others: 19

4 Force of Will
4 Daze
4 Standstill
4 Aether Vial
3 Umezawa's Jitte


Sideboard:

4 Chalice of the Void
3 Stifle
2 Gilded Drake
3 Swords to Plowshares
3 Kataki, War's Wage

I chose not to main deck Chalice because I see a lot of unpowered decks and it's not overly good if you can't start the game. That allows me to run 4 Cloud of Faeries, which are very important for the following reasons:

- They allow me to swing with Jitte a turn faster, which really is game breaking. I usually find that a single succesful hit with a Jitte wins me the game (it's hard to go downhill from there).
- They're perfect targets for Jitte and Ninja

You might disagree with Thief, but remember it's also a good Jitte/Ninja target, and its ability is golden against certain decks like Gifts.

I also chose to run 4 Daze as extra permission because I lack the speed that power brings me. I prefer it over Chalice because it's so more versatile (when it comes to counterable spells).


As for the sideboard:

- Chalice speaks for itself.

- Stifle is game against Dragon (bye, permanents), and it's also good against Tendrils. I'd also board it in against Oath and probably some other decks (PT Funk comes to mind).

- Drake is mostly against Oath. I feel Oath is a doable match-up (Bouncer, Thief), but my creatures are usually a turn too slow, which is where Drake comes in. It's also nice against Gifts.

- StP is against Dragon, Oath, aggro.

- Then there's Kataki. I prefer it over Flux, because it's faster, and uncounterable (not both at the same time, I know)
 
I don't think the added cost that they have to pay for Flux makes a big difference (as opposed to killing off the moxes, for example, it nullifies them). It's also better as it is a threat on its own, works with Jitte/Ninja, and the cost I have to pay less does make a pretty big difference for me. I get to keep the Vials/Jittes/Chalices with more ease. It does suck when the opponent has an Academy.
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2005, 07:14:23 am »

I don't think the bouncer should be in the deck. In my opinion it's abilities are useless unless you are willing to discard a vital card. I would consider some bounce instead of them.
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2005, 07:30:11 am »

- With a Vial, I get to do all sorts of tricks like mana fixing and Factory blocking

Faeries doesnt work like that, it has to be played from your hand.  If it did work with vial (believe me we've tried) it would be retarded.  It was errated to not work with effects like that because of minds desire in extended if im right.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2005, 08:16:27 am »

Yeah I knew about the Faeries. I copied this from another post I made at another forum, forgot to edit it. Still warants a spot though.

Bounce over Bouncer? Bouncer is uncounterable, recurrable bounce. It's also enchantable with Jitte. The discard can suck sometimes, but I do get some dead cards like double Jitte or late game Daze. Or just lands. I don't need a lot of them to function properly.

I've decided to take Gilded Drake over Kami, btw.
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2005, 01:18:00 pm »

Stifle can hit fetchlands, true.  But Swords to Plowshares is strictly better against both Dragon and Oath.  Why?  StP can kill Kumano.  If they reanimate Kumano instead of the dragon, things go downhill quickly.
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2005, 02:11:06 pm »

Looks good.

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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2005, 02:19:45 pm »

Stifle can hit fetchlands, true.  But Swords to Plowshares is strictly better against both Dragon and Oath.  Why?  StP can kill Kumano.  If they reanimate Kumano instead of the dragon, things go downhill quickly.

Stifle is mostly for Tendrils though. It's also useful against Dragon and Oath, but that's just extra.
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2005, 02:26:43 pm »

Instead of Tormod's Crypt maybe? It would work better with the Chalice..
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