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« on: February 21, 2006, 12:10:32 pm » |
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Heavy Fog.Name: Heavy Fog
Set & Rarity: Portal Three Kingdoms uncommon
Cost: 2 
Card Type: Sorcery
Rules Text (Oracle): Play Heavy Fog only during the declare attackers step and only if you are the defending player.Prevent all damage that would be dealt to you by attacking creatures this turn.
Format Legality: Legal in: Legacy, Vintage, Two-Headed Giant That's the way it looks to me. I guess you could run it with Quicken, or at least pitch it to Bounty of the Hunt...
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2006, 12:29:08 pm » |
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It has eratta. It's now an Instant. And so are those other cards from portal..
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2006, 03:12:55 pm » |
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On the other hand, Jandor's Ring is legal, but even with errata the rules of the game can't enforce the card.
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« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2006, 04:37:50 pm » |
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It has eratta. It's now an Instant. And so are those other cards from portal..
Where is the errata that makes it an instant recorded? It's not in gatherer, and not on the checklist for the set. And doesn't Sylvan Library (which is potentially tournament playable) suffer the same problem as Jandor's Ring? |
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2006, 07:11:51 am » |
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Both those cards are legal. You can only use the ring if you are visibly keeping track of wich cards you drew this turn. for example spliting your hand into two face down piles. All the cards are technically IN your hand, so for cards like Mindtwist etc, they are all in hand. This method must be visible and trackable by your opponent (face down piles work well). If you ever loose track of wich cards were drawn this turn, then you cannot use the ring... as for sylvan library, if you loose track of the cards for THAT effect, there will most likely be judges and/or gamelosses involved.
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2006, 11:11:12 am » |
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This will never be a problem in practice because the card is a completely unplayable POS
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2006, 12:50:29 pm » |
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as for sylvan library, if you loose track of the cards for THAT effect, there will most likely be judges and/or gamelosses involved. Quite simple actually. Then you just drew both the extra cards and lose 8 life for those... |
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2006, 11:46:29 pm » |
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It has eratta. It's now an Instant. And so are those other cards from portal..
Where is the errata that makes it an instant recorded? It's not in gatherer, and not on the checklist for the set. I was going to yell at you for this...but you're right, Gatherer doesn't reflect it. That's pretty crazy. Notify Wizards, they'll fix it ASAP. |
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2006, 11:59:35 am » |
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For some reason, I thought that they left those cards as Sorceries with the "play this only..." clauses still in tact? Gatherer seems to imply the same.
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2006, 10:52:33 pm » |
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I was going to yell at you for this...but you're right, Gatherer doesn't reflect it. That's pretty crazy. Notify Wizards, they'll fix it ASAP.
After discussion, It Just Works. From the Complete Rules: 103.1. Whenever a card's text directly contradicts these rules, the card takes precedence. The card overrides only the rule that applies to that specific situation. The only exception is that a player can concede the game at any time (see rule 102.3a). If you don't like it, don't play the card. But it's not like there aren't strictly better variants anyways. |
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2006, 12:53:14 am » |
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After discussion, It Just Works.
From the Complete Rules: 103.1. Whenever a card's text directly contradicts these rules, the card takes precedence. The card overrides only the rule that applies to that specific situation. The only exception is that a player can concede the game at any time (see rule 102.3a). How does this rule apply? The Oracle text for Heavy Fog says to play it only when certain conditions are met. How does that give you permission to play Heavy Fog at that time, in violation of the rules for when you can play sorceries? If a sorcery said "Play this only when you have an empty graveyard", I wouldn't be able to play that spell during my opponent's turn just because I had an empty graveyard: I still need to meet the other conditions for when sorceries can be legally played. |
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2006, 02:12:14 pm » |
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Yeah the portal Instand/Sorceries ahve all been changed over to Instants.
I'm still pissed that I can't Burning Wish for Mystic Denial. That would be so hot... Cast Burning Wish and get a hard counter.... It is to dream the impossible dream
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2006, 08:33:15 am » |
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Yeah the portal Instand/Sorceries ahve all been changed over to Instants.
I'm still pissed that I can't Burning Wish for Mystic Denial. That would be so hot... Cast Burning Wish and get a hard counter.... It is to dream the impossible dream
They should keep them as sorceries that you can play at instant speed. |
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2006, 04:44:23 pm » |
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Looks like the same Oracle update that killed Time Vault changed this card to Instant. So that issue's settled.
Thanks to jro for pointing this out.
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