Inspired by Bizarro draw-7.

[jcb193]

When I first read jacob's post about a Bizarro draw-7, I immediately figured it was the opposite of a draw-7.  It wasn't, and was instead an intruiging card.  That said, what do you guys think about the following:

Two potential versions:

Purging Flood
RR1
Sorcery
Each player shuffles his or her hand into his or her library [and then draws a card]


Crumbling Tower (Broken Monolith)
RR1
Enchantment
Crumbling Tower comes into play with one counter on it.  Remove a counter from Crumbling Tower during your upkeep.
When no counters remain on Crumbling Tower, each player shuffles his or her hand into his or her library [and then draws a card]


Is this concept worth considering?  Has it been done before?

[Jacob Orlove]

These are basically Mindslicer effects--why are they red?

[jcb193]

Not necessarily.  There is no utilization of the graveyard, and it is not necessarily hand destruction.  It's a combination of a soft-lock, or a restart.  It also seemed to fit the flavor of Red as a finisher.

I am not confirmed to Red, I am just wondering if this is an idea that has legs. 

[Jacob Orlove]

Well, as long as there's a recognition that basically this mind twists both players, there should be a way to make it.

Red is especially problematic because it is insanely easy to dump your hand. Turn 1 guy, turn 2 guy, guy, turn 3 land, this, discard ~3 cards, opponent discards ~6 cards. If you can wait until turn 4, you can probably nail their entire hand at no cost to yourself--possibly even with a cantrip!

This definitely needs to cost more, and it almost certainly shouldn't be red.

[jcb193]

I was initally thinking it was red as it was like a fireblast.  As you said, dump some guys, do some damage, and then sew the game up.  However, you are locking the game up in an indirect, and less guaranteed manner.  However, I don't know where this fits exactly in the color pie. (Though i will confess it works great with Cursed Scroll).

I just want to make sure that we don't pigeonhole this as discard, as it is much more conditional (no effect on graveyard, is not always advantageous to use, effects both players).

Artifact: I don't think this fits artifact theme, unless it was progressive (each player discards a card until they have none, etc)
Red: might fit tempo, flavor, and style, though possibly too powerful at 3CC.
White: definitely fits theme of global effects, gives white discard, use the counter version?  Sharahazzad precendent
Blue: The anti-draw card card.  Is this card anti-blue?
Black: fits discard theme, fits personal riskiness theme (it could hurt you too), though does not have cards go to graveyard
Green: I don't see it fitting here

Any other thoughts.  I'm more interested if this card has a niche or use......

[Slack]

you could make it black and do the following:


Dark Deed
[some_cost (1BB ?)]
Sorcery
You lose life equal to the number of cards in all players' hands.
Then, each player shuffles his or her hand into his or her library and then draws a card.

Was is worth it?