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Question: Would you play in a large scale Legacy event on Sunday, September 3
I would be able to go - 10 (32.3%)
I would be able to go only if it was a proxy tournament - 4 (12.9%)
I would not be able to go - 11 (35.5%)
Other(Indicate below) - 6 (19.4%)
Total Voters: 31

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« on: August 04, 2006, 02:39:18 pm »

I am looking to hold a large Legacy event on Sunday September 3, 2006.  The tournament would be fashioned after the already popular Waterbury TMD Open tournaments, though this first one would only be a one-day event.

The tournaments would be held in Stratford, Ct.

The pirze is by no means determined at this date, and so I would also like input in this thread as to what you would like to see as the prize structure.  Duals, big things like Imperial Seal, Cash, etc?

Also...should proxies be allowed?

Discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2006, 02:42:16 pm »

OMG this sounds soo awesome. Living in NC blows.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2006, 03:06:20 pm »

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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2006, 04:45:05 pm »

Living on the other side of the Atlantic blows.

QFT. I say Iamfishman should move to Europe. I sure hope that the price support will be good, maybe some good players will be tempted to focus more on Legacy Very Happy
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2006, 04:54:59 pm »

Living on the other side of the Atlantic blows.
Living in the midwest also blows...well as far as legacy goes. Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2006, 05:38:04 pm »

If I'm back on the east coast by September 3rd (I recently moved to the west coast where my parents live and am looking for work) I would definitely attend.

As far as prizes go, I think the best is either cash or large value cards that are still legal in Legacy (Time Vault/Grim Tutor immediately spring to mind).  Playsets of dual lands tend to do well, there were 60+ people at an event not too long ago in Syracuse (the top 8 is in SCG's deck database as "dual land draft").
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2006, 07:02:28 pm »

big things would be my vote. Dual lands are easy to find, but grim tutor, imp seal, and other random portal stuff is hard to come by.

I vote at least some proxies too, otherwise I doubt I'd play.   
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2006, 10:53:57 pm »

A legacy tournament run by Ray would probably be the best way to try out legacy.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2006, 10:59:29 pm »

If I could get that weekend off work, I'd be there.  I'd give it a 50/50 shot.
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2006, 11:29:42 pm »

I voted Other -- "I would love to go but I live 1800 miles away."
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2006, 11:45:18 am »

Ray, this sounds like an awesome idea, I would make every attempt to come and drag others with me to this event. As far as proxies go, i would probably not go with the 10-15 that your waterbury vintage events go, maybe 5 with up to 10 at a dollar each. Most cards people would need to proxy I would think may be duals or mox diamonds etc... I will keep my eyes open for a confirmed event. Im comin!

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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2006, 08:15:46 pm »

I would so go to this. Type one side events too!?!?
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2006, 08:23:27 pm »

Who needs proxies for Legacy? This isn't Vintage, where you need Power and a bunch of OOPs that were underprinted. There are plenty of good decks that are easily buildable with 20 bucks and a bunch of Vintage/Extended staples (duals, Forces, Brainstorms, Eternal Witness, Survival, etc).

I would like to see more of the big-ticket OOP stuff as prizes, such as Seal. Duals are easy enough to acquire in Revised format. You can also substitute the Rav duals without too much of a drawback.

Note: OOP == Out Of Print.
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2006, 09:29:45 pm »

Assuming a clear schedule for that weekend, I'd be in in a second, bringing various other members of the Legacy community in tow.
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2006, 06:11:35 am »

As for a prize, If the attendance supports it... why not just go Moxen.  I mean sure, you can't technically play it in Legacy... but #1 - most of the players in NE who whould play legacy competatively also play vintage competatively.  and #2 - I imagine you could get some fairly insane trades if you taking Power for Legacy stuff.   I wouldn't do any Librarys or Bazaars but Moxen and Lotus are well known enough to be valuable even to a player who plays legacy exclusively.

You could always have the buy-back amount right in the prize structure listing.  That way you can take cash or cards.  Or even something like a Mox or Their Equivilant in Duel Lands.... Of course that means you would need to stock mulitple prizes (or have a dealer/player on hand who has an arangement to make the mox->duels trade when the winner chooses a prize).

As far as proxies go, Unless there is a large following of people who would not play if there were zero proxies... then I say lets shoot for no proxies.  It make things simplier and gives people more incentive to take the format seriously.  If you were going to do proxies go 4 to 5 maximum at $1 (or $2) a peice. 
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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2006, 06:32:20 am »

As for a prize, If the attendance supports it... why not just go Moxen. I mean sure, you can't technically play it in Legacy... but #1 - most of the players in NE who whould play legacy competatively also play vintage competatively. and #2 - I imagine you could get some fairly insane trades if you taking Power for Legacy stuff. I wouldn't do any Librarys or Bazaars but Moxen and Lotus are well known enough to be valuable even to a player who plays legacy exclusively.
This is partially true, and partially not.  Most players in the NE who play Legacy competitively don't play Vintage at all, let alone competitively.  I can think of two who play both, being Herbig and me.  You'll end up attracting more of the Legacy community to this rather than the Vintage, although that isn't a bad thing by any means.  Matt Kadilak's Duel for Duals had a turnout of 60 last weekend in Syracuse after having the event cancelled, reorganized, and moved to a different town 2 days before the event.  Moxes will still bring the Legacy guys out, but for the trade value, as you said.

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As far as proxies go, Unless there is a large following of people who would not play if there were zero proxies... then I say lets shoot for no proxies. It make things simplier and gives people more incentive to take the format seriously. If you were going to do proxies go 4 to 5 maximum at $1 (or $2) a peice.
I've never seen a proxied Legacy tournament, and there really isn't any reason for one.  There's no real good reason not to sanction it.
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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2006, 06:53:37 am »

As for a prize, If the attendance supports it... why not just go Moxen. I mean sure, you can't technically play it in Legacy... but #1 - most of the players in NE who whould play legacy competatively also play vintage competatively. and #2 - I imagine you could get some fairly insane trades if you taking Power for Legacy stuff. I wouldn't do any Librarys or Bazaars but Moxen and Lotus are well known enough to be valuable even to a player who plays legacy exclusively.

This is partially true, and partially not.  Most players in the NE who play Legacy competitively don't play Vintage at all, let alone competitively.  I can think of two who play both, being Herbig and me.  You'll end up attracting more of the Legacy community to this rather than the Vintage, although that isn't a bad thing by any means.  Matt Kadilak's Duel for Duals had a turnout of 60 last weekend in Syracuse after having the event cancelled, reorganized, and moved to a different town 2 days before the event.  Moxes will still bring the Legacy guys out, but for the trade value, as you said.

Sorry, they way I said it was confuseing (and possibly insulting to Legacy players).  What I ment to say was:  I think a lot of the players who would compete in NE (at this event) would be players who play vintage as well.  Firsly because I don't typically see a lot of serious Legacy players in the NE, and secondly because its a Ray Robillard Sponsered event, So there will definately be some vintage players who come out for this Legacy event. 

I guess my point was you've got 2 groups of players:
A- NE Vintage players who Like Ray's events, and are ready to try something new (like me)
B- Actual Compatative Legacy players (like Mr.N)
And no matter how you identify yourself, Moxen would good for use or trade.
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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2006, 08:38:44 am »

I'd suggest sanctioning it; there's no reason not to, and it increases the draw of the tournament.  This means no proxies, but I can't imagine card availability to be a problem.  You could post a list of your vendors ahead of time so people could e-mail/call and request specific cards for pickup the way SCG does.

For prizes, I think winning a Mox is big incentive, although I'm wondering if you'll give cash value instead (so people can split or whatever).  Other than that, you could do a dual payout the way SCG or GenCon does.  SCG does full set, half set, 1 of each, 1 of each, 1 of each ally, 1 of each ally, 1 of each enemy, 1 of each enemy.  I imagine GenCon does it similarly.  I saw an interesting version at the Duel Land Drafts in Syracuse, where you get a set of each and draft them in T8 order, but that's a lower payout.

God damn I would love to go.
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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2006, 08:42:19 pm »

Lol living in CT rulez.
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