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« on: August 11, 2006, 01:08:18 pm » |
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Alright, I'll ask...
...where are some freaking GenCon results? Please post whatever detailed information you can provide. We're all interested!
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2006, 01:47:19 pm » |
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Okay, here are some tidbits from Rich Shay...
Rich 1-2 dropped out of today's Legacy event. He was playing the same Goblins list that DerangedParrot apparently won a bye event with yesterday.
At a 15-person or so Vintage event yesterday, Rich got second place playing dragon, losing in the finals to Dan Carp playing Oath.
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2006, 01:54:55 pm » |
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Who cares about results, who's deck is the pimpest?!
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2006, 02:20:34 pm » |
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Matt Abold is 4-0 with Truffle Shuffle (BWG Control)
Herbig is 2-2 with Solidarity (Reset High Tide)
Powergamer is 3-1 with Red Death (Br Suicide)
Overlord95 is 3-1 with Duck Hunt (UB landstill)
Mike - creator of IggyPop is 3-0-1
Goblins is apparently doing really well.
9 rounds.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2006, 02:26:32 pm » |
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Matt Abold is 4-0 with Truffle Shuffle
Herbig is 2-2 with Solidarity
Powergamer is 3-1 with Red Death
Overlord95 is 3-1 with Duck Hunt
Mike - creator of IggyPop is 3-0-1
Goblins is apparently doing really well.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2006, 02:27:00 pm » |
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Any word on turnout? 9 Rounds means there was atleast 256- thats pretty good!
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2006, 03:09:19 pm » |
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Iggy isn't bad. <mixedknut> anus: I am doing GenCon "coverage" <mixedknut> except it will be in article form, just like last year <AnuWork> ted: Vintage, legacy or both/ <mixedknut> both <mixedknut> I truly hate your format's stupid decknames <AnuWork> Don't blame me <Lee|work> says someone's whose custom title used to read "legacy public relations" ... <mixedknut> anus: 180+ players here <mixedknut> no standings <AnuWork> knut  . Anything else you can tell me? <mixedknut> I can tell you to STFU and wait for the article <AnuWork> when will the article go up? <mixedknut> and also that there's nobody interesting here <mixedknut> some day Okay, so my source can't give me much, but it's all I have. Edit: Spencer is 1-4 drop with Dredge Tog. |
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2006, 01:18:09 pm » |
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Anyone have any word on the Vintage Champs yet??
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I actually had to explain to someone why Mana Drain was better than Counterspell. That was depressing...
Then they asked why Black Lotus was better than Gilded Lotus. I walked away.
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2006, 01:20:52 pm » |
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MoxPearl, the legacy runner up, is 3-0 with Oath. That's all I know.
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2006, 01:24:34 pm » |
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my boy ro aparantely won the legacy champs.
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2006, 01:25:37 pm » |
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Updates:
Ro is supposedly 3-0
Paul is 3-0
Steve is 2-1, having lost to Ro
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2006, 01:47:30 pm » |
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anyone can say me where i can see results "on hair"???
my friend Francesco Giani has been invited by wizard as italian champion so I would like to know what is doin'!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2006, 03:10:26 pm » |
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Oath = Vintage, not Legacy
CA = I'm from Californai and hence cant make it.
What are/When is Sactioned T1 results?
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2006, 04:37:00 pm » |
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From my buddy just now:
Arend X-1.
Steve X-1-1.
Mastriano 6-0.
Becker is doing bad.
Herbig dropped.
Roland dropped 3-2.
What a crazy sounding tournament.
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2006, 05:12:31 pm » |
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More updates, please! A concerned friend [of Forcefieldyou] is more than anxious to find out how he has done.
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2006, 05:17:27 pm » |
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My buddy said that the last time he heard from Demars, he was 2-1, losing the slaver mirror to a savage topdeck. I also asked about Demars, but my buddy didn't know anything else.
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2006, 05:29:36 pm » |
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Hey, thanks! I'll check back for more updates.
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2006, 05:41:27 pm » |
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This just in:
Demars dropped.
Meckes is X-1-1.
Vroman is X-1-1.
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2006, 06:10:48 pm » |
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I hope Josh is playing GAT. Go DP!
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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2006, 06:31:55 pm » |
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Rich Shay went 3-2 drop I just got off the phone with him, and he was very distraught over his round four opponent. Apparently Rich's opponent had multiple warnings during the match, and there was much shenanigans. According to Rich, his opponent forgot to attack with Juggernaut when worldgorger was out, later claimed he forgot to draw a card when Rich wasn't looking, and most distrubing, was riffling Rich's deck at an angle where the cards could be viewed (not unlike what Olivier Ruel was caught for). Rich called judges on the juggernaut thing and the forgetting to draw a card thing. Opponent received warnings for both. For the juggernaut play, they let him back up a turn and swing, but since rich's opponent knew what Rich had cast on the following turn, this person played a creature that he had not played the first time around. With the extra information now gained, the opponent determined laying the un-named creature actually was the correct play. For the draw a card thing, apparently Rich nor the judge actually watched the opponent during the draw step, so the judge took the opponent's word for it. I asked Rich if cards in graveyard + hand were counted by anyone, he said no. Rich said he regrets not calling his opponent on the shuffling, and believe his getting abysmal draws during the games may have been connected to it. Rich had never seen this person before and didn't remember his name. He thinks the first name was Mark, playing workshop aggro. Round five Rich said he was still upset from the previous match, and apparently got run down by Scott Limoges without putting up much of a fight. Scott's a very good player for the record. As a judge, I can understand the ruling of letting them back up so the Juggernaut must attack. That's fine. Letting the opponent cast spells he previously didn't cast however, that's just absurd. The game state has been altered since an entire turn was taken before backing up. This means extra information is out there, which the person should not be able to use to his advantage on a turn gone by. If you're gonna back up the turn, just let the juggernaut swing happen. I'm only posting this information because I want to make the point that even though it's type one, people can and will be shady when prizes are on the line. To be honest, I'm glad our car didn't go to Gencon if above scenarios were what I would have been in store for. - Dave Feinstein |
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2006, 06:42:38 pm » |
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At that point, that's probably an unreparable game state and the penalty is liable to be a Game Loss.
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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2006, 07:56:07 pm » |
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Top 8
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Mastriano
Arend
Paul Nicolo
TK
MoxPearl
XX Person playing Gifts?
XX Person playing ?
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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2006, 08:22:10 pm » |
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How many players showed up? Which decks in the T8? Any info on that yet?
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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2006, 08:30:19 pm » |
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If is the Arend that I know, he probably will be playing Cs
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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2006, 09:04:51 pm » |
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Paul Nicolo loves Vial Fish, so I imagine that's what he has. Just speculation though.
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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2006, 09:13:43 pm » |
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Vroman is obviously playing uba stax.
Vroman and TK are in the T4. I heard vroman won his G1 vs either a gifts or tendrils deck and is in good shape during G2.
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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2006, 09:39:41 pm » |
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As a judge, I can understand the ruling of letting them back up so the Juggernaut must attack. That's fine. Letting the opponent cast spells he previously didn't cast however, that's just absurd. The game state has been altered since an entire turn was taken before backing up. This means extra information is out there, which the person should not be able to use to his advantage on a turn gone by. If you're gonna back up the turn, just let the juggernaut swing happen.
I'm shocked to have seen this been the ruling, because there has recently been discussion about this exact situation on the Judge's list, and the actual correct ruling is that the person controlling the Juggernaut gets a warning for Proc Error-Major and the opponent gets a Caution for Proc Error Minor, but you do NOT back up the game state because the current game state (an untapped Juggernaut in play) is legal. Far too much has happened at this point. That was an absolutely terrible judge call. Rich should have appealed that ruling and DEFINITELY should have called one on the shuffling thing. |
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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2006, 10:40:28 pm » |
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I played a guy named mark at waterbury who was shuffling shady too, but it was a kid, like 15 or so. He played shop aggro too.
IDK if it's the same guy, bummer for Shay either way.
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« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2006, 10:40:37 pm » |
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If any of you have been paying attention, sanction vintage events are notorious for terrible rulings, and that is one of the many reasons I chose not to go this year. I shouldn't have to remind anybody from, for example, Origins of '04 where it was ruled that Time Walk targets and "since you have no lands in your hand, you're not allowed to play any for the rest of the game."
I spoke with the L3 in charge at gencon '04, and while a great guy, he also fucked up several times, including once in the finals in which he 'corrected' David Allen's correct play (putting his Duplicant in the graveyard after imprinting a Pentavus) by bringing his card back to play.
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« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2006, 11:15:50 pm » |
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Top 8
Vroman
Mastriano
Arend
Paul Nicolo
TK
MoxPearl
XX Person playing Gifts?
XX Person playing ?
BHWC team member Nick Trudeau (nickvos) made top 8, appropriately enough, with BHWC Tendrils. You'll hear more about this deck soon. Lots of bounce, lots of Tendrils, lots of fast mana, lots of Confidants, lots of just ignoring most of the decks in the format. Nick lost in the first round of top 8 to someone playing Gifts, allegedly due to drawing almost all mana sources in games 2 and 3. Who else has updates? This thing should be done by now I would think. EDIT: Nick made top 8 in both the Vintage Championships and the Legacy Championships this year. Bitches and Hoes West Coast! |
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