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Author Topic: non-control Slaver  (Read 1003 times)
kurtkeoki
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« on: October 31, 2006, 04:07:14 am »

I'm building this as a semi-casual deck for a weekly tournament. The tourney is mostly average to less than average players in the area. I'm not building it as a high caliber deck for power tournaments. The metagame is usually a few few fish decks, maybe a stax deck here and there, a gifts deck or two, and of all things, two-land belcher. It is also ten-proxy. The idea actually started after a conversation I had with one of the top vintage players in the area. We were debating which creature was the most powerful of all time. He claimed it was Goblin Welder, because it's so good in Vintage, while I argued for Dark Confidant, because it's good in every format. I started to think about how I could build a deck that utilized both. I've play tested a bit, but I probably won't have the chance to get too many games in before the next weekly tourney. Let me know if this deck has any potential. I also realize that the better deck would just be to go the full Control Slaver route, but I want something different. Perhaps there is something like this out there already, but I haven't followed Vintage closely so I've missed any deck that hasn't been one of the main threats in the format. I haven't really developed a sideboard yet, but it will for sure have several red blasts, Energy Flux, some creature kill in the form of Darkblast, Dark, or Fire/ice, as well as possibly Chalice (not in the main deck because I have so many 0 cost artis). Any sideboard suggestions would be nice. If its a hopeless deck just let me know, or if you see any changes that would work. Thanks for looking Very Happy

7 SoLoMoxen
1 Mana Crypt
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Vault
1 Memory Jar
1 Duplicant
2 Crucible of Worlds
1 Mindslaver
1 Triskelion
4 Thirst for Knowledge
4 Brainstorm
1 Tinker
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
4 Dark Confidant
4 Duress
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
2 Gorilla Shaman
4 Goblin Welder
3 Bloodstained Mire
2 Polluted Delta
3 Wasteland
1 Strip mine
2 Underground Sea
1 Badlands
1 Volcanic Island
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Mountain
1 Island
1 Swamp

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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2006, 10:23:03 am »

You're not even running Yawgmoth's Will....

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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2006, 11:21:56 am »

The deck lacks focus and it hasn't got a pre-established win condition. Also, it'll have problems casting all those expensive artifacts if Welder+Thirst fail. 4 Duress is an obscene low amount of disruption vs control, combo and fish.
Having pointed the obvious I'll suggest some routes the deck can take to improve:

-Strenghten the mana denial plan. CotV seems to fit in the maindeck.
-Modify your mana base so you can hard-cast the artifact fat. Ancient tomb comes to mind.

CotV doubles as disruption and slows the game down to your decks speed (which is tremendously slow).
Tombs might help casting artifacts reducing your reliance in Thirst, and at the same time it improves your welding targets.
 
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2006, 12:48:36 pm »

You say "non control slaver" but all you did was cut FoW and Drain for confidant and some other stuff.
You keep control components such as crucible/strip and gorilla shaman for mana and trike for board control.

You need to decide: is this control slaver or not?
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