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Author Topic: trying to optimize burning wish in parfrait  (Read 1225 times)
cardplayer1218
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« on: December 19, 2006, 12:42:33 am »

Hey me and a group ofr friends are going to a bigger tourney and I need a hand, I have most o the main deck stfraightened out its the board I need help with.  Well hear is the list and I will let you know any strange choices.

Land

1x Plateau
2x Mountain
12x Plains

Artifacts

1x Black Lotus
6x Moxen ( chrome included)
1x Lotus Petal
1x Sol Ring
1x Grim Monolith
2x Goblin Charbelcher
3x Scroll Rack

White Enchantments

4x Solitary Confrinement
2x Aura of Silence
2x Seal of Cleansing
4x Land Tax

White Spells

4x Orim's Chant
3x Abeyance
2x Swords to Plowshares
1x Balance
1x Enlightened Tutor
2x Argivian Find

Red Creatures

1x Squee, Goblin Nabob

Red Spells

1x Burning Wish

Red Enchantments

2x Blood Moon

sideboard

3x Sacred Ground
1x Abeyance
1x Seal of Cleansing
4x Rule of Law
2x Swords to plowshares
1x Armagedden
1x Empty the warrens
1x Dust to Dust
1x Replenish

Now with the burning wish in the main I have been trying to include any helpful sorceries to the board but I cant seem to think of more.

STAX-   Now I have a descent game against stax, lots of permanats help there and the wish grabs me warrens but after board with grounds its even better. 

Gifts-  I think the game could go either way. Ifr I can get an early lock with confinement then I got it.  Gifts usually only runs 2 bounce and when they cant target me to go search for it then it makes it alot easier.

Bomberman- See Gifts

Long Variants-  if they win on turn 1 then I am screwed, but so would almost any other deck. If I get to play a land then I have a good chance to keep them down with abeyance and chants till I get the lock and afrter board I pull in the rulesand its all uphill for them, except for the turn 1 kill of course

Random aggro- confinement and swords are house here

Fish- probably my worst matchup, Null rod shuts off my win and is why I have main artifact kill and wished for dust to dust

any help with the board would be appreciated, I want to optimize wish with the deck but wasnt sure what else to use, cards for consideration

chain lightning - kills painful, meddling mages or can deal the final couple hits
Wheel of fortune - to refill my hand, worried about combo though
Wrath of god - random aggro and frish variants, at the least will draw out a counterspell

thanx in advance and go ahead and flame me



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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2006, 03:30:42 pm »

Gifts-  I think the game could go either way. Ifr I can get an early lock with confinement then I got it.  Gifts usually only runs 2 bounce and when they cant target me to go search for it then it makes it alot easier.

I don't see how this "can go either way".  That to me, implies that this match-up is 50-50.  I don't see how.  They have counters and plenty of access to the bounce.  Merchant Scroll ---> Chain of Vapor, they don't have to target you.

-DShell

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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2006, 04:37:39 pm »

Gifts-  I think the game could go either way. Ifr I can get an early lock with confinement then I got it.  Gifts usually only runs 2 bounce and when they cant target me to go search for it then it makes it alot easier.

I don't see how this "can go either way".  That to me, implies that this match-up is 50-50.  I don't see how.  They have counters and plenty of access to the bounce.  Merchant Scroll ---> Chain of Vapor, they don't have to target you.

-DShell



I was thinking the same thing. I don't see how it is possible to prevent Gifts from absolutely annihilating you.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2006, 07:03:14 pm »

Yeah bro I hate to say it, as much as I like the concept behind parfait, and the fact it did make Top 100 recently at I believe a SSG tournament (could have been Waterbury) I mean the "lock" established is far from a true lock.  You stop someone from targeting you....and?  Im not going to bash the ideas you put forward obviously, I just think they are flawed-the terms you are using are not correct, parfait cannot lock an opponent out of the game in todays meta. 
Just about any deck you encounter will be running atleast 4 Force of Will (even combo decks are playing it these days), so your idea of holding them off with Abeyance/Orims Chant is flawed right there, it takes one counter to put your whole deck out of business.  In my opinion, parfait has sorta merged with todays Fish decks, I would suggest maybe trying to create some sort of hybrid because Parfait is not too competative in todays world of magic.
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2006, 04:27:54 am »

http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=30089.msg453670#msg453670

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