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« on: December 30, 2006, 06:20:39 pm »

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Appearantly I lose to Goblin Tinkerer
A couple Goblins in contention for T8
An Angel Stompy-esque thing and a Thresh that's already drawn in
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2006, 12:56:29 am »

I scrubbed too. Anyone get the metagame breakdown though? I know there was a list floating around, but I didn't get the chance to read it over.
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2006, 11:35:28 am »

We had a good turn out of 53 players. Here is the meta break down:

Goblins-14
Threshold-6
Iggy Pop-4
BW Confidant-3
Solidarity-3
Landstill-3
Affinity-3
3-4c Loam-3
Madness-2
Rifter-2
Rg Beats-1
Aluren-1
RG Survival-1
Sligh-1
Angel Stompy-1
MonoBlack Confidant-1
Magus.dec-1
BGR Rock-1
UWB Fish-1
BW Reanimator-1

Top 8:
4c Threshold vs Madness
3c Threshold vs Angel Stompy
Goblins vs BGR Rock
Goblins vs UWB Fish

Semi
Madness vs Angel Stompy
Goblins vs Goblins

Finals
Goblins vs Angel Stompy
Goblins beat Angel Stompy in the finals.
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2006, 01:57:23 pm »

the mob(as in me) demands to know specifics.
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2006, 02:55:42 pm »

That is only 51 Deck Lists.  I also played and went 0-2 with B/W Reanimator, but this was my first ever legacy event so I wasn't expecting much.
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2006, 02:58:00 pm »

I went 3-2 drop with goblins.  I was going to drop at 2-2, but when I saw my 5th round opponent was Chris Nighbor, I just had to stay in for one more round.  I faced the mirror twice (lost to a nearly identical deck, won against a R/b deck), faced affinity, loam control and my other loss came from the BGR aggro rock deck.  The event was solid.
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2006, 02:59:04 pm »

Any Terrageddon?  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2006, 04:15:34 pm »

Lots of goblins. Roxas dieing to Goblin tinkerer shouldn't have happened if he was using Darksteel Citadel, but he wasn't. Feinstein can't build good decks.
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2006, 07:27:07 pm »

It seems fish is missing in there somewhere. I played UWb fished, and placed in the top 8 with the list posted below. I will be posting a full touranment report in the fish thread in a few days.

//NAME: WUb Fish
// Creatures
        4 Meddling Mage
        4 Dark Confidant
        3 Jotun Grunt
        3 Mother of Runes
        2 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
        2 Serra Avenger
// Spells
        4 Brainstorm
        4 Serum Visions
        4 Swords to Plowshares
        4 Force of Will
        3 Daze
        3 Stifle
        3 Umezawa's Jitte
// Lands
        4 Flooded Strand
        3 Polluted Delta
        4 Tundra
        2 Underground Sea
        1 Scrubland
        1 Island
        1 Plains
        1 Swamp
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SB:  4 Engineered Plague
SB:  3 Duress
SB:  3 Pithing Needle
SB:  2 Serenity
SB:  2 Engineered Explosives
SB:  1 Perish
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2006, 09:22:38 pm »

Goblin Tinkerer is savage!!!

Also, what kind of AS list loses to Goblins?
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2006, 09:35:20 pm »

Word, if the finals are Goblins and A-Stompy, Gobbos should be eatin' penis unless they went total nuts both games and there was no StP/Silver Knight to silence shenanigans.  I'd really like to see what transpired.
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2007, 03:56:52 am »

I also played Goblins, and dropped with two losses after Round 5.  Unfortunately, I was unprepared to face Umezawa's Jitte, and was beat by it in the second and third games in the final two matches.  Both of the losses were to black and white aggro decks.  I enjoyed the day for the most part and was happy to meet some new people, and also greet a few old friends. 

Except for my fourth round opponent, all of the people I played seemed very under-confident with their play.  Perhaps I noticed because I've been away from tournament play for a period of time, but I'm not sure how these people plan on winning their matches with a negative attitude.  In my opinion, the mental game is more than half of the battle.  Perhaps this should be addressed in a separate issue, however.
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2007, 02:14:03 pm »

No one playing Stax or combo unless IGGY and a lonely Aluren makes me sad. The format is wide open, go break it guys! Very Happy


Okay, then : Angel Stompy losing to Goblins is sure unlikely, but what was the Goblins list looking like? Any splashes or über side-tech, or just plain lucksacking victories against a deck that is supposed to be geared to eat little green dudes alive and smashing them with a bulldozer-like power? Anyway, that just proves a point, in Legacy, if you can't handle Goblins (and mostly a first-turn Lackey), it's possible that your deck is either really bad, or either really good (that is, if your deck doesn't care about the strongest Goblins opening because it'll combo out on turn 2 and kill with, say, a Tendrils of Agony for 20+). Okay, it could demand some playskill, but Magic is not purely a game where lucky topdecks and opening 7s are the core of every game. You can go for others combo too, like a Legacy port of the French Egg's deck in extended or a Legacy port of Dirty Kitty... No? Innovation is needed to keep the format away from stagnation...

Seriously, I just can't buy the fact that anyone is playing with storm-based deck and winning. It seems to me, with the card pool available in Legacy, that Storm-based combo decks should be really good. And Aluren too, BTW.

But, hey, gratz and kudos to the people in the Top 8 and I'll look forward for the decklists! Wink It is always sweet to see Madness in Top 8 (and Solidarity players loosing too).



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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2007, 04:43:47 pm »

Lots of goblins. Roxas dieing to Goblin tinkerer shouldn't have happened if he was using Darksteel Citadel, but he wasn't. Feinstein can't build good decks.

To be fair, that loss was as much my fault as Tinkerer's. I was feeling pretty sick that day, and it only got worse as the day went on. I guess it finally took its toll on me when I somehow convinced myself to keep a hand of Glimmervoid, Needle, and a bunch of two-costers game three. Even though I was on the draw, that should not have kept that hand. I would've lost anyway though I think, because the guy had a very gassy hand.

I may or may not type out a more complete report after I recover from my illness.
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2007, 11:14:24 am »

Will Top8 decklists be posted for this tournament?  This would help in posting the results for the historical Top8 thread. 

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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2007, 11:22:22 am »

Storm based decks do terrible at passtimes because there is so much hate for them there. Ive played IGGy twice and Reanimate 7 once and got totally rolled by Solidarity and Force/Stifle/Meddling Mage decks.
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2007, 01:25:11 am »

We had a good turn out of 53 players. Here is the meta break down:

Goblins-14
Threshold-6
Iggy Pop-4
BW Confidant-3
Solidarity-3
Landstill-3
Affinity-3
3-4c Loam-3
Madness-2
Rifter-2
Rg Beats-1
Aluren-1
RG Survival-1
Sligh-1
Angel Stompy-1
MonoBlack Confidant-1
Magus.dec-1
BGR Rock-1
UWB Fish-1
BW Reanimator-1

Top 8:
4c Threshold vs Madness
3c Threshold vs Angel Stompy
Goblins vs BGR Rock
Goblins vs UWB Fish

Semi
Madness vs Angel Stompy
Goblins vs Goblins

Finals
Goblins vs Angel Stompy
Goblins beat Angel Stompy in the finals.

I wasn't the only Madness player there?  Phooey!!!

I'm the guy that Top 8'ed with Madness.  Deck list was only 3 cards off Chan's.

No one playing Stax or combo unless IGGY and a lonely Aluren makes me sad. The format is wide open, go break it guys! Very Happy


Okay, then : Angel Stompy losing to Goblins is sure unlikely, but what was the Goblins list looking like? Any splashes or über side-tech, or just plain lucksacking victories against a deck that is supposed to be geared to eat little green dudes alive and smashing them with a bulldozer-like power? Anyway, that just proves a point, in Legacy, if you can't handle Goblins (and mostly a first-turn Lackey), it's possible that your deck is either really bad, or either really good (that is, if your deck doesn't care about the strongest Goblins opening because it'll combo out on turn 2 and kill with, say, a Tendrils of Agony for 20+). Okay, it could demand some playskill, but Magic is not purely a game where lucky topdecks and opening 7s are the core of every game. You can go for others combo too, like a Legacy port of the French Egg's deck in extended or a Legacy port of Dirty Kitty... No? Innovation is needed to keep the format away from stagnation...

Also the guy that won (Owen Turtenwald) and I both contest that the Angel Stompy matchup really isn't that bad for Goblins.  There comes a point where you hit a critical mass and they just lose.
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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2007, 04:15:09 pm »

How did the Solidarity decks place?
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2007, 05:04:11 pm »

How did the Solidarity decks place?

I dropped after the 4th round. I wouldn't call myself representative of the others though as it was my first time with the deck in a tourney.
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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2007, 05:56:54 pm »

I wasn't the only Madness player there?  Phooey!!!
Yeah that's why I listed "Madness-2".

Must be a typo...  And I thought that I was the only one terrible enough to play U/G Madness.  Do you have a decklist for the other Madness deck Hspecter?
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