Planar chaos Spoiler : Imp's Mischief

[chrissss]

Imp's Mischief

Instant 
Change the target of target spell with a single target. You lose life equal to tha spell's converted mana cost.
 

the lifeloss isnt the worst thing, since you wont target too many expensive spells. Its black though, which is its main strenght imo. if it had Split second, it would have been better though. still, you can counter counters with this baby, which is pretty sweet for 2 mana and some life.

any opinions?

[OfficeShredder]

It looks like black could be on a level with blue for best color in vintage after planar chaos comes out.  Not a singularly powerful spell, but this definitely helps fill one of two holes black has had trouble dealing with

[Implacable]

It looks like black could be on a level with blue for best color in vintage after planar chaos comes out.  Not a singularly powerful spell, but this definitely helps fill one of two holes black has had trouble dealing with

What in God's name are you talking about?  I mean, I'll be the first to say that Extirpate really is a great card, but hysterics about how black in general will somehow become amazing because of a terrible, terrible card just don't have any place here.  There are a grand total of 0 decks that would want to run this card.

[GrandpaBelcher]

What in God's name are you talking about?

Dude, chill.  It's not a "terrible, terrible card."  Cards are rarely "terrible, terrible" when they have a useful ability in an unexpected color.  You're right that there are no decks right now that would want to run this, at least not mainstream decks, but that doesn't mean a Bx Fish-type list won't be developed or even something completely new.  Black won't ever stop a first-turn win (at least until Force of Kill gets printed *crosses fingers*), but with heavy selected discard and some beaters it has a good game against combo and control.  Neither Extirpate nor Imp's Mischief will throw the Vintage world into upheval (at least as much as people are saying Extirpate will), and black still won't be quite on a level with blue, but both of these cards will probably see play at some point at least in testing.

[Implacable]

What in God's name are you talking about?

Dude, chill.  It's not a "terrible, terrible card."  Cards are rarely "terrible, terrible" when they have a useful ability in an unexpected color.  You're right that there are no decks right now that would want to run this, at least not mainstream decks, but that doesn't mean a Bx Fish-type list won't be developed or even something completely new.  Black won't ever stop a first-turn win (at least until Force of Kill gets printed *crosses fingers*), but with heavy selected discard and some beaters it has a good game against combo and control.  Neither Extirpate nor Imp's Mischief will throw the Vintage world into upheval (at least as much as people are saying Extirpate will), and black still won't be quite on a level with blue, but both of these cards will probably see play at some point at least in testing.

Both Misdirection and Divert, which is not very good, are both much better than this card.  Black, as used in this format, is fundamentally an aggressive color.  Unlike blue or white, it is not suited to control or utility; it plays broken tutors, rituals, and card draw to win the game, regardless of the deck that it's in.  Black decks do not ever want to have to keep two mana open, one of which is likely very vulnerable to Wasteland and should be protected at all costs, in order to acchieve an effect that is only better than Counterspell if an opponent has Recall.  I'm saying, bluntly, that it will never be used, and while I don't want to get emotional, I am frustrated with everyone's ballyhooing of terrible black cards in Time Spiral.  Neither the black Misdirection nor the black Walk will ever be used; saying that they will be used in a test deck somewhere is a disingenous dodge at best.

[andrewpate]

Note that in saner formats, the primary thing you're going to target with a Misdirection effect is going to a be a burn spell.  Sending that Char back home to deal 6 is great.  And that's no doubt from where the life-loss drawback stems:  that play is probably still good when you lose 3 life, but making a Lightning Helix cancel out for the cost of 2 life is a lot less attractive, and it doesn't really work on Demonfire at all.  Some deck may want this, but it's hardly an auto-include.  If it does show up, I expect sideboards.

The thing is, even in U/W/b Fish, the type deck most likely to want something like this, you have access to blue and therefore MisD.  Using this to win a counterspell war will often dome you for 5; add a fetchland to that and Pitch Long will be happy to only need 6 Storm before casting Tendrils of Agony for the win.  The same goes for the Fish mirror.  "Underpowered" decks that might want this effect simply can't afford to knock a turn off the clock like that.  Even if I built straight B/W Fish, some kind of Deadguy Ale port or something, I would not even think about including this in the initial build or at any point thereafter barring some unforeseen nightmare matchup in which this somehow managed to be a viable sb option.

[chrissss]

it doesn't really work on Demonfire at all. 

DF cant be countered, it can be misdirected.

I didnt say this card was super amazing, its just that this is a misidrection, its cheap, and it BLACK.

you dont need blue to play this. your opponent isnt going to expect a counter from you if your playing mono black. the black time walk sucks, its BBBB, and you can give up half your life to counter it, which can be annoying in some situations.

I think this card is better. even if you play one, your opponent will think you have one for the rest of the games.

[InfinityCircuit]

Since Demonfire has "x" in its mana cost and you use Imp's Mischief to misdirect it you will only end up doing one more damage to yourself.  If the Demonfire is lethal for both players, you will still lose because SBEs will be checked after Imp's Mischief resolves but before the redirected Demonfire targets the opponent.

[CCClark]

In all honesty, it makes a decent sideboard card since black has never been fond of the random red decks roaming around at the lower levels of the tournament.    Sending bolts flying in the wrong direction isn't too bad.  I doubt it's really worth playing though since you can just duress an ancestral anyway and being on the offensive is much better with black so far as it's card pool goes. 

[OfficeShredder]

Both Misdirection and Divert, which is not very good, are both much better than this card.

Misdirection is so not very good that its played in vintage.  What a terrible, terrible card.

Obviously people aren't going to run black just to splash this card.... they might, though, run this card in decks that are black.  With this, black is less reliant on running blue with it for counter power.

[Implacable]

Both Misdirection and Divert, which is not very good, are both much better than this card.

Misdirection is so not very good that its played in vintage.  What a terrible, terrible card.

Obviously people aren't going to run black just to splash this card.... they might, though, run this card in decks that are black.  With this, black is less reliant on running blue with it for counter power.

My use of a singular verb, as opposed to a plural verb, clearly indicated that I thought that Divert specifically was not very good, and was not saying that about Misdirection.  Please read my posts before you criticize them. 

Please, I entreat you to name a deck which runs black, does not run blue, and has space for a card this bad.  I'm being harsh because I am upset by what I see as optimistic dishonesty; everyone who is saying that this card could be played knows that it will not be, but is still willing to say, for the sake of being optimistic, that it can be.  A strict system of comparative evaluation shows that this card is inferior to two other cards, both of which are in the best color in the format.  I reiterate, for the final time: this card will not ever be played.

[rgbeatskeeper]

Both Misdirection and Divert, which is not very good, are both much better than this card.  Black, as used in this format, is fundamentally an aggressive color.  Unlike blue or white, it is not suited to control or utility; it plays broken tutors, rituals, and card draw to win the game, regardless of the deck that it's in.  Black decks do not ever want to have to keep two mana open, one of which is likely very vulnerable to Wasteland and should be protected at all costs, in order to acchieve an effect that is only better than Counterspell if an opponent has Recall.  I'm saying, bluntly, that it will never be used, and while I don't want to get emotional, I am frustrated with everyone's ballyhooing of terrible black cards in Time Spiral.  Neither the black Misdirection nor the black Walk will ever be used; saying that they will be used in a test deck somewhere is a disingenous dodge at best.

I don't believe you know what you’re talking about, yes Misdirection isn't the best blue card ever, but its meant to PUSH spells through, like with fish decks where you’re not trying to counter everything but your trying to get your stuff on the table. Now in a  mono black deck aggro deck I can see Imps' Mischief working out fairly well , its not a counter but it will help you push your shade or whatever you feel like winning with through. Don’t just say X card is bad and criticize people for having an open mind.

[o uncola o]

Both Misdirection and Divert, which is not very good, are both much better than this card.  Black, as used in this format, is fundamentally an aggressive color.  Unlike blue or white, it is not suited to control or utility; it plays broken tutors, rituals, and card draw to win the game, regardless of the deck that it's in.  Black decks do not ever want to have to keep two mana open, one of which is likely very vulnerable to Wasteland and should be protected at all costs, in order to acchieve an effect that is only better than Counterspell if an opponent has Recall.  I'm saying, bluntly, that it will never be used, and while I don't want to get emotional, I am frustrated with everyone's ballyhooing of terrible black cards in Time Spiral.  Neither the black Misdirection nor the black Walk will ever be used; saying that they will be used in a test deck somewhere is a disingenous dodge at best.

I don't believe you know what you’re talking about, yes Misdirection isn't the best blue card ever, but its meant to PUSH spells through, like with fish decks where you’re not trying to counter everything but your trying to get your stuff on the table. Now in a  mono black deck aggro deck I can see Imps' Mischief working out fairly well , its not a counter but it will help you push your shade or whatever you feel like winning with through. Don’t just say X card is bad and criticize people for having an open mind.

If he had believed that Misdirection was not a good card the sentence would have read, "Both Misdirection and Divert, which are not very good, are both much better than this card."  However, the sentence is written to indicate that Divert is not very good.  He never spoke to the quality of Misdirection. 

[Implacable]

Both Misdirection and Divert, which is not very good, are both much better than this card.  Black, as used in this format, is fundamentally an aggressive color.  Unlike blue or white, it is not suited to control or utility; it plays broken tutors, rituals, and card draw to win the game, regardless of the deck that it's in.  Black decks do not ever want to have to keep two mana open, one of which is likely very vulnerable to Wasteland and should be protected at all costs, in order to acchieve an effect that is only better than Counterspell if an opponent has Recall.  I'm saying, bluntly, that it will never be used, and while I don't want to get emotional, I am frustrated with everyone's ballyhooing of terrible black cards in Time Spiral.  Neither the black Misdirection nor the black Walk will ever be used; saying that they will be used in a test deck somewhere is a disingenous dodge at best.

I don't believe you know what you’re talking about, yes Misdirection isn't the best blue card ever, but its meant to PUSH spells through, like with fish decks where you’re not trying to counter everything but your trying to get your stuff on the table. Now in a  mono black deck aggro deck I can see Imps' Mischief working out fairly well , its not a counter but it will help you push your shade or whatever you feel like winning with through. Don’t just say X card is bad and criticize people for having an open mind.

If he had believed that Misdirection was not a good card the sentence would have read, "Both Misdirection and Divert, which are not very good, are both much better than this card."  However, the sentence is written to indicate that Divert is not very good.  He never spoke to the quality of Misdirection. 

Thanks, Uncola!  That was exactly my intention in regard to the phrasing of the sentence.  Please note that, in order to make Imp's Mischief sound good, Beatskeeper, you fit it into Suicide Black.  That pretty much proves my point about how good it is.

[CCClark]

This would be fun to hit someone's Ancestral since they won't be expecting a black deck to be running misdirection and would probably cast it to avoid the discard. 

[wethepeople]

This would be fun to hit someone's Ancestral since they won't be expecting a black deck to be running misdirection and would probably cast it to avoid the discard. 

Unfortunately, this only has a chance of working in Suicide Black though, or possibly TMWA, though they have no use for it really. It looks to me like R&D reallllly wants Sui to be viable again, considering that they gave so many nice new cards to the deck.

[CCClark]

This will really just end up being one of those cards you keep in the back of your mind for future reference.   It's not aggressive and blacks best cards are at this point.   It has the use of being a black misdirection, but at this point, that's not something black wants to do.   You can just remember it for those games where you really want misdirection, but don't have the blue base to support it.

[silvernail]

Suicide Black was fun, I used to play it before my deck got stolen...

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