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Author Topic: The Baddest-Ass Legend Ever Printed  (Read 7241 times)
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« on: February 06, 2007, 05:21:30 pm »

So, I'm curious: Which one would you pick? The only criteria are that it's printed, Legendary, a creature, and legal in Vintage. I'm basing my choice(s) primarily on flavor, and partly on the actual card -- the latter has to back up the former. If the card itself is completely wimpy, underwhelming, and/or wrong, that knocks it out of contention. This is more of a boolean than a relative thing, though, e.g. "does, or does not, the card do a good job of portraying the flavor and badassity of the Legend"; either yes, or no, and not "how awesome is the card". Beyond that, the flavor decides. (It's complicated, though. For example, Konda is made infinitely more awesome by being indestructible than if the card were pretty much anything else -- maybe because in this case, it's the card itself which reveals how badass he really is, which I might not otherwise have guessed).

Personally, I'm having a tough time deciding between Baron Sengir and Dakkon Blackblade. If you put a knife to my throat, I'll be scared shitless, and will, unless you are or are affiliated with Baron Sengir, probably choose Dakkon Blackblade.

Most heavily under consideration were:

Baron Sengir
Dakkon Blackblade
Rakdos the Defiler
Nicol Bolas
Spirit of the Night

Also notable contenders:

Vaevictis Asmadi
Chromium
Sol'Kanar the Swamp King
Shauku, Endbringer
Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
Konda, Lord of Eiganjo

I could also see people suggesting, but wouldn't myself pick:

Visara the Dreadful
Rorix Bladewing
Arcanis the Omnipotent
Eron the Relentless
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
Memnarch
Atogatog
Borborygmos

Lastly, the reaction these two elicit is, rather than "awesome", "ugh":

Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Phage the Untouchable


The inherent tragedy of the situation is that the title should, by all rights, have belonged to none other than Lim-Dul the Necromancer, possibly the baddest-ass dude in the Multiverse short of Yawgmoth (who else is there: Gix? Volrath? Leshrac?). But then, Wizards actually printed him, and completely botched it. The card is weak, predictable, boring, and utterly underwhelming. I wish they could unprint and/or reprint him to correct this mistake.

Also: Just because Blind Seer is actually Urza, does not make him badass.

So, sound off. I didn't explicitly make this a poll, because I don't think it's possible to accurately predict and condense the likely opinions, but I'll be very surprised if the popular choice is neither Black nor a Dragon.
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2007, 05:58:20 pm »

Squee, Goblin Nabob is pretty bad-ass. He wins my vote.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2007, 06:13:23 pm »

Sengir would be a lot cooler if he were a vampire. Without that, he's just a flashy-dressed guy in Homelands. Dakkon? Yeah, he's cool.

Sol'Knar, however, is also pretty badass. He's well-costed, and has a lot of flavor. He rules the swamps so he can wander through them without worrying about being blocked, and he can reward your use of evil magic.

AtogAtog. We prefer not to speak of such things.

Squee has excellent flavor -- small and himself harmless, but the fact that he can't die comes in handy. You can keep selling him to those folks at the Bazaar, and they just don't seem to learn.

Finally, Teferi. He's a strong card and really makes the opponent's day miserable. He's also the physical manifestation of Wizards' hating green. He's something of a Green-Sucks-Elemental. You combine City of Solitude and King Cheatah into, both tournament-played cards, into a form which is stronger than either one. And the result? It's blue. It just goes to show you that if you make cards in another color powerful, they become blue.

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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2007, 06:18:53 pm »

Akroma Angel of Wrath, one badass lady in play. You have a very high chance of winning.

Teferi Mage of Zhalfir is also nice. like eot cast, resolve you have a creature that will irritate your opponent.  Very Happy
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2007, 06:31:40 pm »

Personally, I think Memnarch is a home-run here.  His artifact stealing ability is not only useful (and makes him played at least a little in every format), but it matches his flavor very well.  Also, let us not forget that this guy was pretty instrumental in Mirrodin Block, which changed much of how the game is played.
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2007, 06:38:29 pm »

I'm pretty sure Baron Sengir is a Vampire, just his creature type is lacking. (Hopefully, they'll fix this when they finally get around to that big creature type cleanup they've been talking about -- anyone know when that's due? Along with other such luminaries as Eladamri not being an Elf, Karona not having a creature type so you can't swing for 8, Shapeshifter not being a Shapeshifter, and upon searching Gatherer for the phrase "goblin mutant", finding several other cards which have the creature types Goblin Mutant, and also the card Goblin Mutant, which doesn't).
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2007, 08:12:54 pm »

I have to vote for Teferi. I started playing in Mirage and he was the most awesome character in the flavor text. And his card clearly shows you how he is the Master of Time.
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2007, 08:58:10 pm »

SOL'KANAR WILL BROOK NO MORE OF THIS

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2007, 09:16:19 pm »

Xira Arien ftw.

Did you read the flavor text? She has a fabulous wardrobe!
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2007, 01:53:17 am »

Tsabo Havoc eats EVERY OTHER legend! And has protection from them... Thats is pretty bad-azz I must say.
Also Sol-Kanar, and all the elder dragon legends...

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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2007, 02:09:05 am »

Phelddagrif, of course.

Who needs flavor text when you can have seven lines of worthless rules?
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2007, 02:22:52 am »

There are alot of great legends.

Teferi. Multani. Akroma. Lin Sivvi. There's probably a bunch more but I can't think of them.
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2007, 03:24:59 am »

Does Cthulhu count here?

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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2007, 08:41:01 am »

Chainer, Dementia Master.

He is the king of Nightmares.  Plus, when all your Legends are dead, he brings them back.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2007, 10:31:30 am »

Jaya Ballard, Task Mage.  One of the first characters to make me care about flavor text, and one of the best characters in the game.  I think one of the things that makes Jaya awesome is that she wasn't all powerful, but she was cool anyway.
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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2007, 10:34:42 am »

Ramses Overdark is a pretty cool guy.
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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2007, 10:44:15 am »

If chuck norris was a card id vote for him anyday, but until that glorious day i have to go with Bladewing the risen
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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2007, 01:34:40 pm »

If we can only choose from the list, I pick The Swamp King.

But, I remember in all the old-old-school Zoo decks, Stangg used to come in to totally destroy the mirror. He's my favorite.
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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2007, 04:07:26 pm »

If we can only choose from the list...

Of course not. Those were just the ones I thought of myself, off the top of my head. This was the very reason I didn't make it a poll -- because it's impossible to get all of these wacky choices like Squee, Stangg, Ramses Overdark, Cthulhu et al in a list.
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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2007, 08:27:09 pm »

Stangg 4 life.

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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2007, 10:16:32 pm »

I'm going to have to go with Nicol Bolas.

He's so powerful, that if he hits you, you suffer amnesia of all the spells you ever learned and have to relearn them. 

Plus he's pretty fun to wip at people with Zirilian of the Claw (who while I admittedly love, doesn't really have much flavor).
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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2007, 09:13:28 am »

I have never ever met Sol'kanar, and I pray God I never will. Even stories of him were enough to keep me awake too many nights on my childhood. He is the ultimate badass. Come on, he is the SWAMP KING. For reference: his wallet.
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« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2007, 08:07:08 pm »

Phelddagrif, of course.

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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2007, 12:36:29 pm »

Dakkon Blackblade has my vote even though it is a casual card. 
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« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2007, 12:39:07 pm »

LORD OF TRESSERHORN. 

Have you seen this guy's axe?!?    I think this contest is now over.  You may close the thread.
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« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2007, 03:37:45 pm »


Plus Two!
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« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2007, 04:15:15 pm »

Ertai, wizard adept - The card itself is not that cool, but all the flavor texts with ertai is bad-ass!

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« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2007, 04:58:42 pm »

Ertai, wizard adept - The card itself is not that cool, but all the flavor texts with ertai is bad-ass!

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Screw the wizard adept, the Corrupted is a badass.  I'm not too afraid of pissing off big scary guys like Lord of Tresserhorn or other brutes--but pissing off a wizard is the worst idea you could ever have.
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« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2007, 05:09:36 pm »

I have never ever met Sol'kanar, and I pray God I never will. Even stories of him were enough to keep me awake too many nights on my childhood. He is the ultimate badass. Come on, he is the SWAMP KING. For reference: his wallet.


You better give him his wallet back cause if he finds out you took it he is going to be pissed!
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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2007, 05:06:09 am »

Chainer, Dementia Master!!

He's one evil mothertrucka'. Wink

Flavor-wise I think he's amazing... And his actual abilities are very powerful, maybe not in Vintage, but in casual he's great fun.
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