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Question: What Vintage deck would you feel MOST comfortable piloting in a large 10 proxy vintage event at the moment?
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« on: February 07, 2007, 11:03:49 am »

I was just curious as to what decks people would feel the most comfortable playing in the current metagame.  If there were a SCG this weekend and you were planning on attending, what deck would you play?  Also, would the deck you chose change if it were a SCG in VA as opposed to NY, or Chicago?  What if you were going into a completely unknown metagame?

I guess the most important part of the question is 'what deck would you be most comfortable playing in a large scale event, right now?'
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2007, 11:41:00 am »

I wouldn't feel very comfortable playing Oath at a large tournament.  That's a lot of games where you have to search for your loop. 

I'd feel very comfortable playing a combo deck.  Instead of 12 games to win 6 rounds (to go X-0-2/X-1-1), you really only need to win like 8 or 9 games becsause 3 or 4 will just be "HAY DUDEZ, I'M GOOD AT TEH VINTAGE!" wins.  Combo rarely completely fizzles out if you play it right, so that might be 1 game you lose to that.

I hate drains so I'd never feel comfortable playing them Smile

I'd have a hard time playing a fish deck in a large tournament, just due to the high chances of at least a few games just being completely blown out.  At a smaller tournament you might be able to skate by without this happening so I'd consider playing a fish deck at a 5-6 round tournament

In the North East I'd make sure I'd be playing massacres and something to destroy Gifts.  Actually, B/R Stax would be pretty hot in the NE with a few modifications for Goblin tokens.  It was built specifically to beat Gifts and fishies.

In the MidWest I'd have a more general sideboard to deal with roughly equal amounts of fish, stax, combo with Drains having a slightly bigger piece of the pie.  The higher variation in deck choices would make Stax a less attractive choice compared to the NorthEast where you can heavily metagame the deck and be right most of the matches.
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2007, 12:33:23 pm »

I had to vote for T1T cause there was no poll for regular tog and "other" just sucks.
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2007, 06:50:44 pm »

Gifts, mostly because I like playing control.  I would probably still run tinker-colossus since everyone's metagamed for ETW, and because I'm old school like that
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2007, 09:05:05 pm »

Trinket mage is best bear ever!

Finally a deck that wins with a 2/2, my style.
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2007, 10:06:55 pm »

Bob-erman FTW. If I get a chance to play in any more tournaments, maybe I'll actually do something with the deck!
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2007, 10:19:37 pm »

I'd feel most comfortable playing Belcher, because I have extensive experience with it and know that no one will have prepared for the matchup.
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2007, 11:22:44 pm »

I'd feel most comfortable playing Belcher, because I have extensive experience with it and know that no one will have prepared for the matchup.
I think you just counter the belcher.

Seiously though, I'm surprised the most popular decks appear to be long and gifts, whereas my recent tournament experience seems to show the opposite as far as long, and while gifts is popular it doesn't seem to be overwhelmingly played, it may just be that so many different lists are under the umbrella of gifts.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2007, 12:24:30 am »

Who else put "Vial Fish?" I thought I was the only person that ever played that deck. Rolling Eyes

Yeah, I like Vial Fish. It's the only thing I even win with, every time I play anything else I either fall short of top 8 or lose in the quarterfinals. All of my success in Vintage has come with my trusty Aether Vials.

Whoever voted for "Vial Fish" must have accidentally did it, they must have missed when they were trying to click "Rod Fish."

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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2007, 01:10:27 am »

Bomberman, as I know the deck inside out. Not easy for a beginner though.
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2007, 02:14:25 am »

Whoever voted for "Vial Fish" must have accidentally did it, they must have missed when they were trying to click "Rod Fish."

I'll admit I reached for Vial Fish only to click Rod Fish instead. (intentionally)
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2007, 03:25:11 am »

TMWA, obviously.
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2007, 12:14:03 pm »

URBana Fish added by request.
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2007, 12:39:22 am »

I put bomberman, but why is dragon not an option? Not that I would choose it, but it seems more viable than sui black.

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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2007, 04:11:11 am »

I'd feel perfectly comfortable running my mono-U Masknought list because I know it can beat anything sitting across from me (proxy will usually mean GrimLong and all but a few GrimLong players suck so they can be beaten despite their deck being better).

Actually, I feel comfortable running pretty much any deck that doesn't have a Tendrils kill in it (I always manage to **** those up somehow due to my lack of experience with those decsk).
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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2007, 09:05:29 am »

I'll play 5c Stax till the cows come home.


           however IF i knew the metagame was suited for something better.


I might play it.
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2007, 10:36:36 am »

I'd feel perfectly comfortable running my mono-U Masknought list because I know it can beat anything sitting across from me (proxy will usually mean GrimLong and all but a few GrimLong players suck so they can be beaten despite their deck being better).

Actually, I feel comfortable running pretty much any deck that doesn't have a Tendrils kill in it (I always manage to **** those up somehow due to my lack of experience with those decsk).

Because I forgot it.

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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2007, 02:11:33 pm »

uhh...you forgot Meandeck Sligh
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2007, 03:15:28 pm »

uhh...you forgot Meandeck Sligh

Take off Gifts, it's not like anyone even plays it, and in it's place, add MDS. [Meandeck Sligh. obv]

I am still debating on my vote.

EDIT: I decided on URBana Fish, seeing as it has a fair matchup versus so many decks I would be likely to face. Red gives you all the sideboard options there is, so I doubt I would ever 0/2 drop. Also, I have had a lot of experience with the deck, and all of it's matchups, so there is little probability of me completely scrubbing out.
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2007, 03:40:23 pm »

Guys, please don't spam up this thread.  It's actually one of the first worthwhile polls I've seen for a while.
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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2007, 05:51:26 pm »

My vote went to Vial Fish (U/W).  I'm one of thoes people that love the consistency of Fish and making broken decks "play Fair".  The way I see it, the more proxies you allow, the more "monster decks" appear.  The more they appear, the more "bad players" come out of the wood works with thier "elite net decked lists".  The more that happens, the easier it is for a good Fish player to capitalize on bad plays and disrupting the field.  I'm pretty sure the curse of Fish not ever winning a tournament would nail me to the cross as per usual, but I'd have fun making top 8.

U/W vial Fish FTW - with Chalice instead of Rods.
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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2007, 06:05:18 pm »

I chose slaver, as it's the deck I've played the longest and would be most comfortable playing...but if there was a scg p9 event tomorrow, I'd probably take gifts due to its awesomeness.
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« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2007, 02:22:01 am »

I still love AngryP's Gilded Claw concept, but I would pilot a Bob/Bomberman list.

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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2007, 05:22:34 am »

Honestly, I would feel MOST comfortable piloting Sui Black.  The decisions are fairly straightforward.

However, I would choose Pitch Long if I was metagaming and wanted to win.
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« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2007, 12:17:01 pm »

There's a simple reason why Gifts is winning this poll: When you go to a tournament, you should play the best deck!  No one deck crushes Gifts, and its absurd power level guarantees that it has game in almost any situation.
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2007, 04:46:47 pm »

I find it strange that long has the second most votes, and was in first for a minute, and yet the people who top 8 with long are like the same 4 people. Shouldn't that mean then that most people would be better served picking another deck? Are people really comfortable with long, and yet do not perform with it? This isn't a flame, I'm not trying to say "People who don't make top 8 with long suck", it just struck me as odd.

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« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2007, 05:02:25 pm »

I find it strange that long has the second most votes, and was in first for a minute, and yet the people who top 8 with long are like the same 4 people. Shouldn't that mean then that most people would be better served picking another deck? Are people really comfortable with long, and yet do not perform with it? This isn't a flame, I'm not trying to say "People who don't make top 8 with long suck", it just struck me as odd.

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I find it even more strange that Oath is in 3rd.  I mean, Oath never top8s anywhere anymore except with Ben or Dan Carp as the pilot.
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« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2007, 05:32:45 pm »

I find it strange that long has the second most votes, and was in first for a minute, and yet the people who top 8 with long are like the same 4 people. Shouldn't that mean then that most people would be better served picking another deck? Are people really comfortable with long, and yet do not perform with it? This isn't a flame, I'm not trying to say "People who don't make top 8 with long suck", it just struck me as odd.

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Unfortunately, I made Long a lot easier to play by adding FoW/MisD over duress. You can do well with Long in a given tournament without perfect play, riding heavily on its brokenness.

I find it even more strange that Oath is in 3rd.  I mean, Oath never top8s anywhere anymore except with Ben or Dan Carp as the pilot.

Agreed.

So more people are comfortable piloting gifts over slaver? Gifts has a lot of insane plays.
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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2007, 05:52:07 pm »


More comfortable doesn't necessarily mean more likely to t8. For some, the comfort level might stem from ease of play and the limiting of the number of critical decisions, even though the archetype in question might not be objectively best.

This is why I might select something like WGD as far as the highest comfort level is concerned, even though I might feel that Gifts gives me the best chance to t8/win an event. Oath ranked #3 then really isn't a surprise - its a relatively easy deck to play, even though to t8 with it on a more consistent basis requires you to play nearly perfectly.
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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2007, 05:56:30 pm »

What's the difference between bomberman and salvagers? I thought these terms were interchangeable. If you add them together as I write this the combined salvagers total is 11, which would be tied for third atm.

Edit: fixed some number becuase I can't read apparently
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