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Midknight
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« on: February 17, 2007, 12:03:40 am »

My friend Shawn told me, I was rule layer. When I was playing Joe Davis, in the round of swiss at Blue Bell. Let me explain what happen.

I had Engineered Explosives @ zero and Tormods Crypt on the board. My opt had Tormods Crypt on the board. I wanted to destroy his Crypt. I blow the Explostives, During my turn. I said in response, ill blow the Crypt. He said I couldn't do that, since he never responded with a activated ability or spell.

My friend told me since its my turn, I can respond with as many spells or activated abilities, while there still on the stack, before passing priority. Now I didnt say before I pass priority, but I did say in responce to be blowing the Explostives.

Was I cheated???
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2007, 12:29:10 am »

this is indeed true, you are allowed to respond to your own spells or abilities before passing priority
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2007, 12:31:03 am »

From the Comprehensive Rules: http://www.wizards.com/magic/comprules/MagicCompRules070201.txt

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408. Timing of Spells and Abilities

408.1. Timing, Priority, and the Stack

408.1a Spells and activated abilities can be played only at certain times and follow a set of rules for doing so.

408.1b Spells and activated abilities are played by players (if they choose) using a system of priority, while other types of abilities and effects are automatically generated by the game rules. Each time a player would get priority, all applicable state-based effects resolve first as a single event (see rule 420, "State-Based Effects"). Then, if any new state-based effects have been generated, they resolve as a single event. This process repeats until no more applicable state-based effects are generated. Then triggered abilities are added to the stack (see rule 410, "Handling Triggered Abilities"). These steps repeat in order until no further state-based effects or triggered abilities are generated. Then the player who would have received priority does so and may play a spell or ability, take a special action (such as playing a land), or pass, as governed by the rules for that phase or step.

408.1c The active player gets priority at the beginning of most phases and steps, after any game actions are dealt with and abilities that trigger at the beginning of that phase or step go on the stack. No player gets priority during the untap step and players usually don't get priority during the cleanup step (see rule 314.3). The player with priority may play a spell or ability, take a special action, or pass. If he or she plays a spell or ability, or takes a special action, the player again receives priority; otherwise, the next player in turn order receives priority. If all players pass in succession (that is, if all players pass without taking any actions in between passing), the top object on the stack resolves, then the active player receives priority. If the stack is empty when all players pass in succession, the phase or step ends and the next one begins.

408.1d A player may play an instant spell or an activated ability any time he or she has priority. Spells other than instants may be played during a player's main phase, when that player has priority and the stack is empty.

408.1e When a spell is played, it goes on top of the stack. When an activated ability is played, it goes on top of the stack.

408.1f Triggered abilities can trigger at any time, including during the playing or resolution of a spell or another ability. However, nothing actually happens at the time the abilities trigger. Each time a player would receive priority, each ability that has triggered is put on the stack (if it hasn't already been put on the stack). Then the player gets priority and may play spells or abilities. (See rule 410, "Handling Triggered Abilities.")

408.1g Combat damage goes on the stack once it's been assigned. For more information, see rule 310, "Combat Damage Step."

408.1h Static abilities aren't played-they continuously affect the game. Priority doesn't apply to them. (See rule 405, "Static Abilities," rule 418, "Continuous Effects," and rule 419, "Replacement and Prevention Effects.")

408.1i Special actions don't use the stack. The special actions are playing a land (see rule 408.2d), turning a face-down creature face up (see rule 408.2h), ending continuous effects or stopping delayed triggered abilities (see rule 408.2i), ignoring continuous effects (see rule 408.2j), and removing a card with suspend in your hand from the game (see rule 408.2k).
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In short, yes, you get first responses to your own actions.  You can add as many items to the stack as you'd like and your opponent cannot add anything to the stack until you pass priority to him.  Only when priority is passed twice in succession does anything actually resolve, however.
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2007, 12:37:50 am »

If I didnt response by Crypting him when I blow the Explostives, when I had priority. Since Joe did nothing, it would get pass back to me right, since it has to pass two times before actrally resolving?
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2007, 01:01:10 am »

No.  If Joe does nothing, the spell resolves.
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2007, 03:24:16 am »

I'm assuming, that in the end, both players could blow up each other's grave with their individual Tormod's Crypts, unless Stifle or somesuch becomes involved.

What was the real issue?
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2007, 03:22:01 pm »

Thanks to everyone help. I have a good understanding on how the priority works.

Sorry I dont remember the exact reason why I wanted to blow the Explostives. It had something to do with him removing my gy, before I sac a Spellbomb or something along thoses lines.
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