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Author Topic: Stufy Doll + Pariah's Shield + Volcano Hellion  (Read 1888 times)
Playboy514
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« on: April 09, 2007, 10:30:04 pm »

Hey guys I have a question about a specific combination that iv'e been pondering.

Stuffy Doll
As Stuffy Doll comes into play, choose a player.
Stuffy Doll is indestructible.
Whenever damage is dealt to Stuffy Doll, it deals that much damage to the chosen player.
Tap: Stuffy Doll deals 1 damage to itself

Pariah's Shield
All damage that would be dealt to you is dealt to equipped creature instead.
Equip 3

Volcano Hellion
Volcano Hellion has echo X, where X is your life total.
When Volcano Hellion comes into play, it deals an amount of damage of your choice to you and target creature. The damage can’t be prevented.


Okay.  I'm in game I have my Stuffy Doll and Pariah's Shield in play, Pariah's shield is attached to Stuffy Doll

Next Turn I play Volcano Hellion, chooseing the amount of damage to me 10, I choose to do the damage to Stuffy Doll, 10 Damages is dealt to my opponet because of the Pariah's Shield/Stuffy Doll combination, while the other 10 is redirected to Stuffy Doll thus doing 20 damages to my opponet.

Is this plausible? The part that concerns me is Volcano Hellion when it says "This damage can't be prevented" - Can it be bounced? And when it says can't be prevented does it mean ALL, including the damage i'm dealing to him with the initial trigger of dealing the damage to stuffy doll, redirecting it to him?

Thanks guys!
-Josh
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2007, 01:43:49 am »

Due to Pariah's Shield's effect, the Hellion ends up dealing 20 damage to the Stuffy Doll. Stuffy Doll triggers and deals 20 to the chosen player.

Hellion's ability says the damage can't be prevented.  This means exactly that.  If some effect prevents damage, it will say it prevents damage.  Other effects that look or act similar but don't mention preventing damage are not damage prevention.
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2007, 06:00:40 pm »

Due to Pariah's Shield's effect, the Hellion ends up dealing 20 damage to the Stuffy Doll. Stuffy Doll triggers and deals 20 to the chosen player.

Hellion's ability says the damage can't be prevented.  This means exactly that.  If some effect prevents damage, it will say it prevents damage.  Other effects that look or act similar but don't mention preventing damage are not damage prevention.

Thank you much Sir.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2007, 04:30:31 pm »

Due to Pariah's Shield's effect, the Hellion ends up dealing 20 damage to the Stuffy Doll. Stuffy Doll triggers and deals 20 to the chosen player.

Hellion's ability says the damage can't be prevented.  This means exactly that.  If some effect prevents damage, it will say it prevents damage.  Other effects that look or act similar but don't mention preventing damage are not damage prevention.

Since the damage is being done to stuffy doll and being redirected to my enemy, can he in turn prevent it? I know that on Volcano Hellion it says 'This damage can't be prevented' but since it's going through stuffy doll does it loose that effect when it targets an opponet?

Thanks!
-Josh
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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2007, 12:59:24 am »

Stuffy Doll doesn't actually redirect damage. It just does damage whenever it is damaged. The damage from Stuffy Doll can be prevented regardless of what kind of damage was dealt to Stuffy Doll in the first place.
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How about choosing a non-legend creature? Otherwise he is a UG instant Wrath of Frog.
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