[Contest] Grand Prix: Columbus Predictions

[forests failed you]

1. What do you predict the turnout to be?  600
2. How many Force of Wills do you expect to see in the Top 8?  28
3. How many Wastelands in the Top 8?  16
4. In the top 8, what will be the most popular:
a. Blue card:  Brainstorm
b. White card:  Swords to Plowshares
c. Green card:  Protean Hulk
d. Red card:  Goblin Lackey
e. Black card:  Duress
f. Gold card:  Meddling Mage
g. artifact:  Lotus Petal
h. non-land card (most popular of 4a-g):  Brainstorm
5. What's going to be the highest placing combination deck?  Flash Hulk
6. What's the most common basic land type in the Top 8?  Mountain
7. What's the most common dual land in the Top 8?  Underground Sea
8. Goblins in the T8? (yes or no)  Yes
9. Hulk Flash in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
10. Threshold in the T8? (yes or no) No
11. Fish in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
12. Survival.dec in the T8? (yes or no)  No
13. High Tide in the T8? (yes or no)  No
14. Landstill in the T8? (yes or no)  Yes
15. BW Deadguy Ale (Disruption) in the T8? (yes or no) No
16. Gamekeepers/Salvagers in the T8? (yes or no) No

BONUS
17. ____________Hulk__ [deck] will take first place.
18. Who will win: Pro or Not?  Pro
19. The winner will be: ______Rich Hoen________. (Specific player name)

[Bardo]

1. What do you predict the turnout to be? 580
2. How many Force of Wills do you expect to see in the Top 8? 24
3. How many Wastelands in the Top 8? 12
4. In the top 8, what will be the most popular:
a. Blue card: Brainstorm
b. White card: Swords to Plowshares
c. Green card: Nimble Mongoose
d. Red card: Goblin Lackey, Goblin Ringleader, etc. - the Goblin 4-ofs
e. Black card: Duress
f. Gold card: Meddling Mage
g. artifact: Pithing Needle
h. non-land card (most popular of 4a-g): Brainstorm
5. What's going to be the highest placing combination deck? Hulk Flash
6. What's the most common basic land type in the Top 8? Island
7. What's the most common dual land in the Top 8? Tropical Island!
8. Goblins in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
9. Hulk Flash in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
10. Threshold in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
11. Fish in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
12. Survival.dec in the T8? (yes or no) No
13. High Tide in the T8? (yes or no) No
14. Landstill in the T8? (yes or no) No
15. BW Deadguy Ale (Disruption) in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
16. Gamekeepers/Salvagers in the T8? (yes or no) No

BONUS
17. Threshold [deck] will take first place.
18. Who will win: Pro or Not? Pro
19. The winner will be: Pat Chapin. (Specific player name)

[Vegeta2711]

1. What do you predict the turnout to be? 550
2. How many Force of Wills do you expect to see in the Top 8? 32
3. How many Wastelands in the Top 8? 8
4. In the top 8, what will be the most popular:
a. Blue card: Force of Will
b. White card: Swords to Plowshares
c. Green card: Protean Hulk
d. Red card: Red Elemental Blast
e. Black card: Duress
f. Gold card: Meddling Mage
g. artifact: Lotus Petal
h. non-land card (most popular of 4a-g): Force of Will
5. What's going to be the highest placing combination deck? Flash
6. What's the most common basic land type in the Top 8? Island
7. What's the most common dual land in the Top 8? Underground Sea
8. Goblins in the T8? (yes or no) No
9. Hulk Flash in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
10. Threshold in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
11. Fish in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
12. Survival.dec in the T8? (yes or no) No
13. High Tide in the T8? (yes or no) No
14. Landstill in the T8? (yes or no) No
15. BW Deadguy Ale (Disruption) in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
16. Gamekeepers/Salvagers in the T8? (yes or no) No

BONUS
17. Flash will take first place.
18. Who will win: Pro or Not? Pro
19. The winner will be: Rich Shay. (Specific player name)

[Godder]

1. What do you predict the turnout to be? 450
2. How many Force of Wills do you expect to see in the Top 8? 20
3. How many Wastelands in the Top 8? 16
4. In the top 8, what will be the most popular:
a. Blue card: Brainstorm
b. White card: Swords to Plowshares
c. Green card: Nimble Mongoose
d. Red card: Goblin Lackey
e. Black card: Duress
f. Gold card: Meddling Mage
g. artifact: Tormod's Crypt
h. non-land card (most popular of 4a-g): Brainstorm
5. What's going to be the highest placing combination deck? Hulk Flash
6. What's the most common basic land type in the Top 8? Island
7. What's the most common dual land in the Top 8? Tropical Island
8. Goblins in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
9. Hulk Flash in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
10. Threshold in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
11. Fish in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
12. Survival.dec in the T8? (yes or no) No
13. High Tide in the T8? (yes or no) No
14. Landstill in the T8? (yes or no) No
15. BW Deadguy Ale (Disruption) in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
16. Gamekeepers/Salvagers in the T8? (yes or no) Yes

BONUS
17. Hulk Flash will take first place.
18. Who will win: Pro or Not? Pro
19. The winner will be: Chris Pikula

[SonataOfTheCathedral]

1. What do you predict the turnout to be? 320
2. How many Force of Wills do you expect to see in the Top 8? 12
3. How many Wastelands in the Top 8? 16
4. In the top 8, what will be the most popular:
a. Blue card: Brainstorm
b. White card: Swords to Plowshares
c. Green card: Protean Hulk
d. Red card: Goblin Lackey
e. Black card: Leyline Of The Void
f. Gold card: Meddling Mage
g. artifact: Lotus Petal
h. non-land card (most popular of 4a-g): Brainstorm
5. What's going to be the highest placing combination deck? Hulk Flash
6. What's the most common basic land type in the Top 8? Island
7. What's the most common dual land in the Top 8? Tropical Island
8. Goblins in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
9. Hulk Flash in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
10. Threshold in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
11. Fish in the T8? (yes or no) No
12. Survival.dec in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
13. High Tide in the T8? (yes or no) No
14. Landstill in the T8? (yes or no) No
15. BW Deadguy Ale (Disruption) in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
16. Gamekeepers/Salvagers in the T8? (yes or no) Yes

BONUS
17. Goblins will take first place
18. Who will win: Pro or Not? Pro
19. The winner will be: Elias Vaisberg

[frolll]

1. What do you predict the turnout to be? 735
2. How many Force of Wills do you expect to see in the Top 8? 23
3. How many Wastelands in the Top 8? 15
4. In the top 8, what will be the most popular:
a. Blue card: Brainstorm
b. White card: Mother of Runes
c. Green card: Nimble Mongoose
d. Red card: Pyroclasm
e. Black card: Dark Confidant
f. Gold card: Meddling Mage
g. artifact: Enginereed Explosives
h. non-land card (most popular of 4a-g): Brainstorm
5. What's going to be the highest placing combination deck? Hulk Flash
6. What's the most common basic land type in the Top 8? Swamp
7. What's the most common dual land in the Top 8? Underground Sea
8. Goblins in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
9. Hulk Flash in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
10. Threshold in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
11. Fish in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
12. Survival.dec in the T8? (yes or no) No
13. High Tide in the T8? (yes or no) No
14. Landstill in the T8? (yes or no) No
15. BW Deadguy Ale (Disruption) in the T8? (yes or no) No
16. Gamekeepers/Salvagers in the T8? (yes or no) Yes

BONUS
17. ______________ [deck] will take first place. Fish
18. Who will win: Pro or Not? Pro, obv.
19. The winner will be: Lam N. Phan

[Bardo]

'Cleaned this thread of most non-entry posts. - Bardo

[tehmajickguy]

1. What do you predict the turnout to be? 558
2. How many Force of Wills do you expect to see in the Top 8? 20
3. How many Wastelands in the Top 8? 4
4. In the top 8, what will be the most popular:
a. Blue card: Brainstorm
b. White card: Swords to Plowshares
c. Green card: Protean Hulk
d. Red card: Red Elemental Blast
e. Black card: Leyline of the Void
f. Gold card: Lim-Dul's Vault
g. artifact: Pithing Needle
h. non-land card (most popular of 4a-g): Brainstorm
5. What's going to be the highest placing combination deck? Hulk Flash
6. What's the most common basic land type in the Top 8? Island
7. What's the most common dual land in the Top 8? Underground Sea
8. Goblins in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
9. Hulk Flash in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
10. Threshold in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
11. Fish in the T8? (yes or no) Yes
12. Survival.dec in the T8? (yes or no) No
13. High Tide in the T8? (yes or no) No
14. Landstill in the T8? (yes or no) No
15. BW Deadguy Ale (Disruption) in the T8? (yes or no) No
16. Gamekeepers/Salvagers in the T8? (yes or no) No

BONUS
17. Hulk Flash will take first place.
18. Who will win: Pro or Not? Pro
19. The winner will be: Mark Herberholz

[Skink_123]

1. What do you predict the turnout to be? 1296
2. How many Force of Wills do you expect to see in the Top 8? 20
3. How many Wastelands in the Top 8? 8
4. In the top 8, what will be the most popular:
a. Blue card: Brainstorm
b. White card: Swords to Plowshares
c. Green card: Protean Hulk
d. Red card: pyroblast
e. Black card: Dark Confidant
f. Gold card: Medling mage
g. artifact: Senseis Divining Top
h. non-land card (most popular of 4a-g):
5. What's going to be the highest placing combination deck? Hulkflash
6. What's the most common basic land type in the Top 8? Island
7. What's the most common dual land in the Top 8? Underground Sea
8. Goblins in the T8? (yes or no) yes
9. Hulk Flash in the T8? (yes or no) yes
10. Threshold in the T8? (yes or no) yes
11. Fish in the T8? (yes or no) no
12. Survival.dec in the T8? (yes or no) no
13. High Tide in the T8? (yes or no) yes
14. Landstill in the T8? (yes or no) no
15. BW Deadguy Ale (Disruption) in the T8? (yes or no) no
16. Gamekeepers/Salvagers in the T8? (yes or no) no

BONUS
17. Threshold [deck] will take first place.
18. Who will win: Pro or Not? Pro
19. The winner will be: Bardo. (Specific player name)


Hahaha, i forgot to put up most 4 of, but I hope my 20FoW's can count think I got 27 points :O

[Illissius]

So as far as I can tell, the results are:

1. What do you predict the turnout to be? 883
2. How many Force of Wills do you expect to see in the Top 8? 20
3. How many Wastelands in the Top 8? 8
4. In the top 8, what will be the most popular:
a. Blue card: Brainstorm and Force of Will (20) [someone called this exactly]
b. White card: Swords to Plowshares (11)
c. Green card: Protean Hulk (12) [second is Dryad, with 8]
d. Red card: Pyroblast (8) [+ Red Elemental Blast (6) = 14]
e. Black card: Duress (20) [second is Leyline, with 16]
f. Gold card: Lim-Dul's Vault (8)
g. artifact: Umezawa's Jitte (10)
h. non-land card (most popular of 4a-g): Brainstorm, Force of Will, Duress (20)
5. What's going to be the highest placing combination deck? Hulk Flash
6. What's the most common basic land type in the Top 8? Swamp (32) [9 Islands, 4 Mountains, 1 Forest, 1 Plains]
7. What's the most common dual land in the Top 8? Underground Sea (12) [6 Volcanic Island, 5 Tropical Island, 5 Tundra, 4 Scrubland, 3 Taiga, 1 Badlands]
8. Goblins in the T8? Yes
9. Hulk Flash in the T8? Yes
10. Threshold in the T8? Yes
11. Fish in the T8? Yes
12. Survival.dec in the T8? No
13. High Tide in the T8? No
14. Landstill in the T8? No
15. BW Deadguy Ale (Disruption) in the T8? Maybe
16. Gamekeepers/Salvagers in the T8? No

BONUS
17. Hulk Flash will take first place.
18. Who will win: Pro or Not? Pro
19. The winner will be: Steven Sadin.

Note that there's a total of 19 cards missing from among the T8 lists (but Owen's and Gadiel's were also posted earlier), so some of the numbers might change if we find out what they are. In particular, if the five cards missing from Ryan's sideboard contain four Leylines, then it ties with Duress.

[Godder]

Thanks for that Illissius! I'll give it a few more days to see if we ever find out the missing cards (TheSource, SCG or WotC boards perhaps?), and then start marking. The only thing is that I don't consider the B/W aggro deck is Deadguy Ale, because it has no LD at all, not even Vindicates.

[Illissius]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure how lenient we want to be. On that note, do the pairs of red and blue Blasts get any special treatment, or are they just separate cards and that's that?

[Bardo]

I'll argue that Red Blast = Pyroblast, for all intents and purposes. I know they're modally different, but that doesn't seem all that significant for our purposes.

[ReAnimator]

If it helps the missing 5 cards from Trepanier board were 3 disrupts and 2 boseiju. I don't think it will effect anything but there you are.

[Anusien]

With the Blasts, I'd just count them up together as one card and don't let the count go above 4.  Maybe 8 Pyrostatic Pillar is the most represented red card in the T8, and one guy ran 4 REB, and another guy ran 3 REB 3 Pyroblast; count it as 7 REBs and 8 Pillars.

[Illissius]

With the Blasts, I'd just count them up together as one card and don't let the count go above 4.  Maybe 8 Pyrostatic Pillar is the most represented red card in the T8, and one guy ran 4 REB, and another guy ran 3 REB 3 Pyroblast; count it as 7 REBs and 8 Pillars.

We could have an amazingly lengthy and bitter debate about whether or not this is a good idea, but thankfully it doesn't matter -- Blasts easily outnumber the next closest either way.

[freakish777]

Appendix: Blank Entry Sheet
(feel free to cut-and-paste this)

1. What do you predict the turnout to be?   700    0 points

2. How many Force of Wills do you expect to see in the Top 8?  20  2

3. How many Wastelands in the Top 8?  4  1

4. In the top 8, what will be the most popular:

a. Blue card: Brainstorm/FoW split 20 each  2 points, maybe a bonus for calling exactly 20?

b. White card: Swords to Plowshares 2

c. Green card: Nimble Mongoose 0

d. Red card: Pyroblast ??? Let the mods iron things out on this

e. Black card: Leyline of the Void (including SBs)  0

f. Gold card: Meddling Mage 0

g. artifact: Lotus Petal 0

h. non-land card (most popular of 4a-g): Brainstorm/FoW split 20 each Missed Duress, let mods figure out points on that


5. What's going to be the highest placing combination deck? Flash 2

6. What's the most common basic land type in the Top 8? Island 0

7. What's the most common dual land in the Top 8? Tropical Island 0

8. Goblins in the T8? (yes or no) Yes, with MD Leyline 1, whiffed on MD Leyline though

9. Hulk Flash in the T8? (yes or no) Yes 1

10. Threshold in the T8? (yes or no) Yes 1

11. Fish in the T8? (yes or no) Yes 1

12. Survival.dec in the T8? (yes or no) No 1

13. High Tide in the T8? (yes or no) No 1

14. Landstill in the T8? (yes or no) No 1

15. BW Deadguy Ale (Disruption) in the T8? (yes or no) No Let mods decide what qualifies as BW Deadguy, I think being BW with Confidant+Duress+Hymn+Ritual is close enough, nothing else is entirely essential

16. Gamekeepers/Salvagers in the T8? (yes or no) No 1

BONUS
17. Threshold (with MD Stifle) will take first place 0

18. Who will win: Pro or Not? Pro 1

19. The winner will be: Osyp 0

I'll let the mods decide the nitty-gritty stuff, like scoring my Pyroblast call, what BW Deadguy counts as, etc.  So far I have atleast 18 points

[Mr. Nightmare]

No one got any points for attendance.  Tash was closest, with 827, 56 players away.

I scored a whopping 5 points, accidentally.

[erictehfatz0r]

1.  473 people slug their way to sunny Columbus to take part in this magical card slinging. 0 Points.

2.  There will be 28 FoW in the top 8, as one Burninator will make it, and that player will be Jerry Yang or Mark Trogdon, whichever decide to play the deck.0 Points.

3.  I'm going to go with the relatively low 8, as I see some variations of Fish making it all the way, or maybe BW.2 Points.

4.
a. Brainstorm2 Points.
b. Swords to Plowshares2 Points.
c. Nimble Mongoose0 Points.
d. Lightning Bolt0 Points.
e. Duress2 Points.
f. Pernicious Deed0 Points.
g. Pithing Needle0 Points.
h. Brainstorm2 Points.

5. First.I'm awarding myself 2 Points here, as below I state that Hulk Flash will win the GP.

6. Mountain, because Islands will be accompanied with Duals, while burn is all about the mountains, baby.0 Points.

7. Underground Sea2 Points.

8. No.0 Points.

9. Hell Motherfucking Yes.1 Point.

10. Yes.1 Point.

11. UBW Fish, yes. 1 Point.

12. No.[color=red1 Point.[/color]

13. No.1 Point.

14. Yes.0 Points.

15. Yes.1 Point. It's BW, and Duress+Hymn+Bob is what BW is.

16. No.1 Point.

17. Hulk Flash3 Points.

18. Well, it will be a pro, but someone who plays Eternal formats regularly. Someone who has pro points is still technically considered a pro by these guidelines, so yes, a Pro will win. 1 Point.

19. If LSV is going, I pick him, but let's just say for shits and giggles Brian Demars.0 Points.

By my count, I have 25 points.

[Parcher]

Im pretty sure that unless new information regarding lists comes in that themagicguy wins with 31 and LSD gets runner-up with 30.

And there was definitely no Deadguy. Neither deck was close. I even think the Threshold deck was borderline.

[Illissius]

Im pretty sure that unless new information regarding lists comes in that themagicguy wins with 31 and LSD gets runner-up with 30.

And there was definitely no Deadguy. Neither deck was close. I even think the Threshold deck was borderline.

I haven't counted anyone else's, but if Blasts are interchangeable and the BW deck isn't Deadguy, I think I have 32.

EDIT -- And now I count 31 for LSD and 33 for themajickguy. Maybe i can't count. *shrug*