the new age of fish decks

[Serenity]

I've read some of the other post about the "new age of fish decks" and i've decided to post a list of my own:

3 ancient tombs
1 strip mine
4 wasteland
1 urborg tomb of yawgmoth
1 Karakas
1 maze of ith
3 polluted delta
2 flooded strand
1 island
3 underground sea
2 tundra

3 phyrexian negator
2 Aven mindcensor
4 meddling mage
4 dark confidant
3 null rod
3 planar void
1 vampiric tutor
1 echoing truth
3 swords to plowshares
4 brainstorm
3 extirpate
1 demonic tutor
4 duress
4 force of will

The karakas and the Maze of ith should help the deck to deal with oath decks, that are very often played in my meta...
the ancient tombs should help me to play spells like aven mindcensor, null rod and phyrexia negator earlier.
urborg tomb of yawgmoth is in the deck to make my whole lands to dualz and help to use ancient tomb in the late game, and not get damaged by it.

because of my very aggroish metagame i'm thinking of adding jitte in favour off null rods....
also i'm thinking of cutting the planar voids to play jötun grunt.
also i'm still missing the dazes and stifles to early disrupt the opponents mana base.....

The deck runns only a few blue cards but also runs force of will, so i need to add some blue cards ( maybe the stifles)

 plz help

serenity

[Korhil]

What are the reasons for running the harder to cast Negator over Grunt?
I think it's these slots that compete, rather than the Planar Void slots that you indicate.
Given the rise of Ichorid in most Metas, surely Grunt is the better 'fat' creature option.

Your correct about needing more Blue cards to support FOW. Stifle seems like the best card to fit into the deck. My testing has conviced me to run 4 Stifle in any Fish deck.

---Korhil

[hauntedechos]

hey guys,

It's me the local Fish talker, dropping his 5 cents again.  I think that Jotun is a real must include at 3, he beats hard, lives past massecre, disrupts the yard etc.  4 mages has been historiclally correct, but with 3 c the taxation on the manabase might be a point of evaluation.  Speaking of mana base how is it for colour on demand?  I think 3 of both duals and 3 of each fetch are called foe in anything 3c like this.

Something I'm looking at right now is evaluating whats more important to me;  Drawing Confidant early with it a 4 of, or using 3 of him and balancing the matches where he isn't online in the first 2 turns, but not having multiples clog up my hand.

4Forces
4Daze
4B.Storm
4Duess, seems pretty strong with whats happening right now.  If you don't have 1cc beaters being dropped first turn, you better have answers or a Duress for the first turn and the 2nd turn creature drop better be a huge tempo advancement for you.

Fish is at a real evaluation point with alot of testing going on.  I feel that the strongest starting point is a U/W build and add B untill you have solid disruption/answers and pro active threats comming out with fluid motion and a %age you feel you could count on in the face of a deck winning turn 2-3 consistently.

cheers
Mike
thanks for choosing Fish.

[Serenity]

Yes, maybe you're right and I should cut the nagators instead of the planarvoids for 3 grunts, but ancient tomb is nice with the negator, because i'm playing unpowered....

Also I think it's not hte right way to play grunts, extirpates and planar void in the same deck, because planar void stop the other ones.. what do you think?????

Which 2 cards would you cut to bring the number of cards down to 60????

do you think i should run the tombs, karakas and maze of ith ( because of my aggroish and oath flooded meta),
or do you think I should cut them in favor of more dualz or basics???

and how should i put in daze and stifle <-- I like them both because I'm actual playing 4 of them in my UW fish... xD