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Author Topic: NEW MEANDECK OPEN - SANCTIONED LEGACY!!!!!! SEPT 2, 2007  (Read 5145 times)
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« on: July 28, 2007, 07:52:14 pm »

It's ON!

Legacy Enthusiasts in Ohio and surrounding States.   The Mean Deck Open Returns!   

Prizes: Will be based upon attendance. Last time we gave away
1st: $200
2nd: $120
3rd:$60
4th:$20

However, $200 is GUARANTEED regardless of turnout.


Where: The Soldiery

4256 N. High St.

Columbus, Ohio 43214

When: Sept 2, 2007

SEE YOU THERE!
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2007, 11:07:16 pm »

...Price to get in?  I might have to go there and bring the big guns... and my friends.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2007, 02:42:36 am »

Damn, I work on Sunday nights, so depending on what time these things end, I might not be able to make it. Don't worry, I'll loan one of my teammates my deck, so I'll at least be there in spirit  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2007, 02:07:02 pm »

I'm pretty sure these things are always $15.  I see no reason it would change now.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2007, 11:47:29 am »

...Price to get in?  I might have to go there and bring the big guns... and my friends.
Keep in touch, will you?  KC, Chris, You and whoever else in MI, can all meet somewhere and pile in my van for this...as long as I can friggin make it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2007, 05:34:45 pm »

...Price to get in?  I might have to go there and bring the big guns... and my friends.
Keep in touch, will you?  KC, Chris, You and whoever else in MI, can all meet somewhere and pile in my van for this...as long as I can friggin make it.

I love you Dan!  I will contact you well in advance cause I have... Issues with driving down myself.  I'll do it if I must but well, lockup your doggies boys and gals.
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2007, 01:48:23 pm »

Can we get some more information on the format(s), average attendance, etc.?  I like to make sure things are going to be worthwhile before driving for a couple hours.
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2007, 04:09:50 pm »

Format is Swiss, cut to top4/top8 depending on attendance.  I know the Vintage tourneys usually average in the mid 20s, so I'd expect about the same for Legacy.  Generally top4 split the prizes, its usually a pretty competitive environment with people from Columbus, Cleveland, and around Ohio showing up.
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2007, 07:28:21 pm »

...Price to get in?  I might have to go there and bring the big guns... and my friends.

$15 entry fee.

Our average attendance is about 25 for Legacy.   I imagine it will be higher this time. 
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2007, 03:58:48 am »

I imagine it will be higher this time. 

Why do you think that? Many people only went to the last few tournaments to prepare for the GP. There are maybe only 5 or 6 people in Columbus who actually care about the format, you and I included, and I have to miss this for work. Sure, you'll get a few guys from Michigan, and Trogdon and his crew out of Cleveland, but I'm putting money on this event only getting 15 people. Still a good number though.
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2007, 10:57:30 am »

Well, we have a huge carload, and I mean huge coming in from Michigan, put that on top of the people that are inquiring about this as a first time thing.  It seems highly likely to work out well.
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2007, 03:06:14 am »

Well, we have a huge carload, and I mean huge coming in from Michigan, put that on top of the people that are inquiring about this as a first time thing.  It seems highly likely to work out well.

Ohh, I see what you did there. You and Steve are trying to make it sound like a ton of people are going to show up so other people will think it's worth it to go. I did not see what you were doing there. I'm just a very honest person, and I don't think lying is very nice  Sad

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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2007, 06:38:06 pm »

Since the prize is GUARANTEED, there's really little need to hype it up for more people.
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2007, 02:21:16 pm »

Be there or be square!!
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2007, 05:03:52 pm »

Be there or be square!!

I'm quite positive I'm not a quadrilateral so I shall attend.
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2007, 11:18:06 am »

Final reminder!  It's this Sunday!
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2007, 04:23:26 pm »

Good luck to those who attend, I'm gonna have to miss this one due to massive amounts of school work =/
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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2007, 04:27:10 pm »

Be there or be square!!

I'm an L7 weenie as well, due to my cousin's wedding.  Good luck all!  I hope Trogdon doesn't burn your faces off.
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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2007, 11:44:15 am »

Sorry guys, I'm backing out of this one.  I just can't justify a 4 hour drive when there are now two local tourneys, Garden City and Flint, within the next few weeks.  Beside that, it's Labor Day weekend and I just bought a house on almost 2 acres, i.e., there will be bonfires and drunkeness.  Good luck to the rest of the Michigan guys, I'll drink one for you.
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2007, 06:50:55 pm »

I believe we had 14 people at this event...the Top 4 who split were:

Eric with U/B (Bob, Shadowmage, Looter) (10pts)
Kyle with ? (10 pts)
Mark Trogdon with Angels and white (Auriok Champion, True Believer, Mother) (9pts)
Doug Linn with W/B/G (Pernicious Deed, Bob) (9pts)

Sorry for the lack of precise info - my recollections are poor.  There was some IGGy, Threshold, and Goblins there also.
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« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2007, 06:10:26 pm »

I am Eric Blegen, finished #2 with 10 pts, and here is my take on the tournament.

The top four were as follows:

Kyle with UGr Grow (4 Goyf, 4 Mongoose, 4 Dryad, 4 Fire/Ice, 4 Bolt)
Eric Blegen with an original UB FishyTog (list below)
Mark Trogdon with modified Angel Stompy (3/4 Exalted, 1 Avenger, Jitte, True Believer, Silver Knight, StP)
Doug Linn with an original GWB Control Deck (deed in SB, Tormagoyf, Bob, Monastary in maindeck)

Other notable decks were:
(name not remembered) U/G Threshold (Werebear, Mongoose, Goyf, Wasteland)
(name not remembered) Ichorid deck with bridge, dread return for flame-kin
Jacob Redfern with High Tide (3 pts)
(name not remembered) with The Epic Storm (0/3? pts)

   What my take on the tournament was:

   Combo bombed in the Aggro/Control heavy environment, due to Mainboard cards like daze, Force of Will, and Duress as well as the odd spell snare or counterspell. Deed, Explosives, Chalices and powder kegs came in from the boards to take wins from the often viable golbin plan of an earlier storm for TES yielding 12-20 golbins. Solidarity took a blow from the large amount of spell snares being run, (possibly because of the predominance of goyf, bob, and just about every spell in this format) and made wishing for wipe away almost a necessity after boards against chalices set to one. The bridge deck, in all matches I saw, was typically one turn or one crypt away from winning all the matches it lost. Bride/Ichorid had many turn one/two kills and I believe that the raw speed of the deck makes it a more viable option in this metagame, as the possibility of a turn one kills denied Thresh/Grow decks their two or three cantrips to dig for additional permission, as well as the certainty of beating goblins with their slower clock and (generally) absence of permission/hate.

   U/B Thresh/Grow seems to be a strong choice yet, with 1st and (fifth?)place finishes going to the only two in the tournament. The stifles allow for random victories against combo, as well as acting as a turn one sinkhole against newer or inexperienced players. (I decided to cut stifle from my list as it often is nearly dead against good players, and ends up being Force-fodder in most of the top 8 games where better players play around it.) Goyf is as allways a highly efficient beater and arguably the best creature in the format, providing a good clock and another answer to gobins' 'aggro'(debatable) plan. Spell snares dominate most opponents in the meta, and the red versions' burn elements wreck havoc on most every deck currently played. (though their usefulness in the mirror is lessened significantly) I feel that versions of Grow with mainboard wastelands are superior insofar as they don't hit a speed bump against landstill's defenders or random decks using factory. Wasteland also forces Grow decks to run additional land slots, and lowers the chances of game losses to poor opens without land, as well as can just randomly win games against opponents who keep such one-landers. With brainstorm, serum visions, and (opt/portent) in the deck, wastelands often can be shuffled/ scry'd away when not needed, and easily found when the situation demands it. The sideboard package of Top/Counterbalance is a powerful tool in the mirror, and against certain combo decks. If you have the duals/fetches and are up for a deck that really tests a pilot's skill, this may be the deck for you. (top 8 matches between these decks often come down to the correct choice of fetching, brainstorming, and holding mana open for spell snare/bolt/counterspell)

  There was an omonous lack of golbins at the tournament, with only one deck full of green guys making an appearance, though not into the top four. (cannot remember color-combination, but I heard RW, which would be better against aggro-control and bridge/belcher/tes type combo with swords, and rule of law in the board) Perhaps a sign of Goyf's current hype, the little guys have been stepping out of the vial into the defense, rather than charging head-first into a field of avengers, werebears, and sea-drakes. The goyfs raw size often necessitates a three or four-for one trade, which no deck can afford to do agaisnt Thresh/Grow. I've personally tested the goblin-fish/goyf matchup many times with both mono-red red-white, and red-black goblins, and it looks to be abysmal from every angle. Could this mean Goblins will pass the torch of 'the deck to beat' down to Thresh/Grow? Perhaps some game breaking (and hopefully pro-green) goblin awaits in Lorwyn to bring back the stablizing deck of Legacy, but until then, lackys will continue to be fire/iced, bolted, and stifled until they find themselves starring down a 4/5 goyf.

   My deck, which I am calling UB FishyTog, was designed to utilize my favorite creature, (who is now vying for most powerful against goyf) Psycatog. I've loved Looter il-kor ever since his release in Timespiral block, and routinely first-pick him in limited. His synergy with tog is undeniable, and I consider his 2 mana price tag to be roughly equivalent to an opt and a bolt, as he nearly always resolves, and will often do between 3 and 5 points of damage, while smoothing out your draw and providing tog-chow for later. Bob seems like a natural fit in a UB tog deck, as his card advantage allows you to find, feed, and backup tog with countermagic. Shadowmage was added as another card-drawing engine. (i have absymaly poor luck, and need all the card quality/advantage i can to survive floods and stalls) The deck is rounded out with Permission in the form of duress (now thoughtseize), daze, and Force, with creature removal in Sudden death(now slaughter pact) and Damnation. (which can yield massive advantage, as tog forces opponents to commit dudes to the board, and works well with the four factories and card-selection) I chose sudden death over smother after much playtesting with both, as smother often had to be played around daze, and was never guaranteed to resolve, so the 1BB often was equivalent to the 2B of a smother. (around daze) it routinely kills Goyf, and kills other important guys like spike-feeder, werebear, bob, and monastery. My list was as follows, and was wholly original, developed over a month and a half by myself and team-mate, Anthony Cuevas.

4 Chrome Mox
2 Umezawa's Jitte

3 Shadowmage Infiltrator
3 Psychatog

3 Damnation
4 Dark Confidant
3 Duress
3 Sudden Death

4 Mishra's Factory
1 Island
4 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand
1 Swamp
4 Underground Sea
4 Wasteland

4 Brainstorm
3 Daze
4 Force of Will   
4 Looter il-Kor

//Sideboard: 15
SB: 3 Chalice of the Void
SB: 3 Extirpate
SB: 3 Pithing Needle
SB: 4 Engineered Plague
SB: 2 Vedalken Shackles   

Cleaned up your decklist. --Matt
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Throw enough goblins at any problem and it should go away. At the very least, there'll be fewer goblins.
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