[Results] MTG Gamblers Valencia top 16

[wette]

As it seems no body is posting the decklists... here you have:

Place: Valencia
Players: 146
7 Rounds of swiss + Top16


1º David Beduzzi - Aggro MUD
"Thorn in my Main"

4 Metal Worker
3 Triskelion
3 Karn, Silver Golem
3 Arcbound Ravager
4 CHalice of the Void
4 Thorn of Amethyst
4 Sphere of Resistance
4 Tangle Wire
3 Sword of FIre Ice
1 Trinisphere
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sappire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Mana Crypt
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Strip Mine
2 City of Traitors
3 Wasteland
3 Mishra's Factory
4 Ancient Tomb
4 Mishra's workshop

SB:
3 POwder Keg
3 Crucible of Worlds
3 Pithing Needle
3 Spawning Pit
3 Tormod's Crypt


2º Eric Dupuis - GAT
"Ron Paul Revolution"

4 Quirion Dryad
1 Psychatog
4 Force of Will
4 Misdirection
4 Duress
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Gush
4 Merchant Scroll
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Cunning Wish
1 Echoing Truth
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Fastbond
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
2 Island
3 Tropical Island
3 Underground Sea
3 Polluted Delta
3 Flooded Strand


SB:
2 Tormod's Crypt
1 Hydroblast
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Snuff Out
1 SMother
1 Berserk
2 Oxidize
3 Pithing Needle
3 Tarmogoyf

3º Mattia Benabbi - Storm Combo

1 Platinum Angel
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
3 Duress
2 Tendrils of Agony
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
1 Echoing Truth
1 Rebuild
1 Read the Runes
1 Tinker
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Chain of Vapour
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Mind's Desire
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Necropotence
1 Yawgmoth's Bargain
1 Recoup
4 Dark Ritual
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Black Lotus
1 Mana Crypt
1 Lotus Petal
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Swamp
2 Island
2 Volcanic Island
2 Flooded Strand
3 Underground Sea
3 Polluted Delta


SB:
3 Withered Wretch
1 Rebuild
1 Darkblast
1 Pyroclasm
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Sundering Titan
3 Yixlid Jailer
3 Red Elemental Blast

4º Elías Úbeda - Gush-Tinker

1 Platinum Angel
4 Force of Will
4 Duress
3 Mana Drain
1 Misdirection
1 Red Elemental Blast
4 Merchant Scroll
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Repeal
1 Rebuild
1 Echoing Truth
4 Brainstorm
4 Gush
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Fastbond
1 Regrowth
1 Brain Freeze
1 Tinker
1 Black Lotus
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tropical Island
2 Volcanic Island
3 Underground Sea
2 Island
2 Polluted Delta
3 Flooded Strand

SB:
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Pithing Needle
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Firestorm
2 Viashino Heretic
1 Darksteel Colossus
3 Yixlid Jailer
1 Trygon Predator
2 Ingot Chewer

5º Eugeni Sánchez - UR SLaver

3 Magus of the Moon
3 Goblin Welder
1 Darksteel Colossus
1 Triskelavus
1 Gorilla Shaman
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
2 Spell Snare
2 Red Elemental Blast
4 Brainstorm
3 Thirst for Knowledge
2 Mechant Scroll
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Echoing Truth
1 Tinker
1 Mindslaver
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Volcanic Island
5 Island
2 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta

SB:
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Pithing Needle
1 Platinum Angel
2 Control Magic
1 Spell Snare
2 Rack and Ruin
2 Pyroclasm
1 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast

6º Miguel Blaya Vera - Red Agro Stax

4 Magus of the Moon
4 Goblin Welder
4 Juggernaut
4 Solemn Simulacrum
3 Gorilla Shaman
2 Duplicant
4 Sphere of Resistance
4 Thorn of Amethyst
3 Orb of Dreams
3 Sword of FIre Ice
1 Trinisphere
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Strip Mine
3 Wasteland
4 Mishra's Workshop
7 Mountain

SB:
3 Powder Keg
3 Tormod's Crypt
3 Greater Gargadon
3 Red Elemental Blast
3 Shattering Spree

7º Francesco Banti - Gush Tendrils

4 Force of Will
2 Duress
1 Thougtseize
1 Chain of Vapour
1 Echoing Truth
1 Rebuild
4 Merchant Scroll
4 Gush
4 Brainstorm
2 Ponder
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Timetwister
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Mind's Desire
1 Imperial Seal
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Regrowth
1 Fastbond
1 Dark Ritual
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Lotus Petal
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Island
1 Volcanic Island
2 Tropical Island
3 Underground Sea
3 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta

SB:
3 Pithing Needle
1 Platinum Angel
1 Tinker
3 Yixlid Jailer
2 Spell Snare
2 Massacre
1 Oxidize
1 Hurkyl's Recall
1 Rack and Ruin

8º Niccolo Lai - Dark Monogifts

3 Dark Confidant
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
3 Duress
1 Misdirection
4 Merchant Scroll
4 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Intuition
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Chain of Vapour
1 Echoing Truth
1 Rebuild
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Recoup
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Fire/Ice
1 Black Lotus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Tolarian Academy
2 Volcanic Island
3 Underground Sea
3 Island
2 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta

SB:
3 Yixlid Jailer
2 Spell Snare
2 Pithing Needle
2 Rack and Ruin
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Pyroblast
1 Tinker
1 Sundering Titan
1 Platinum Angel
1 Hurkyl's Recall

9º Adrián Playa Muñoz - Ichorid

4 Street Wraith
4 Narcomoeba
4 Ichorid
4 Golgari Thug
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
4 Stinkweed Imp
2 Flae-kin Zealot
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Dread Return
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Bridge from Below
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Sreum Powder
2 Unmask
4 Dryad Arbor
4 Bazaar of Bagdad

SB:
4 Reverent Silence
3 Contagion
3 Emerald Charm
3 Ancient Grudge
2 Oxidize

10º Ricar Tuduri - UW Fish

4 Meddling Mage
4 Ninja of the Deep Hours
3 Stormscape Apprentice
3 Aven Mindcensor
2 Jötun Grunt
2 Kataki, War's Wage
2 Icatian Javaliners
4 Force of Will
3 Daze
3 Null Rod
2 Stifle
3 Brainstorm
2 Swords to Plowshares
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Strip Mine
1 Plains
3 Island
4 Tundra
4 Wasteland
2 Polluted Delta
4 Flooded Strand

SB:
2 Tormod's Crypt
2 Umezawa's Jitte
2 Energy Flux
2 Spell Snare
2 Swords to Plowshares
2 Disenchant
1 Stifle
1 Echoing Truth
1 Rule of Law

11º Santiago Hoyas Navarro - Red Aggro Stax

4 Juggernaut
4 Magus of the Moon
3 Gorilla Shaman
3 Goblin Welder
3 Solemn Simulacrum
2 Triskelion
4 Sphere of Resistance
4 Thorn of Amethyst
3 Swords of Fire Ice
2 Powder Keg
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Trinisphere
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Mana Vault
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
4 Mishra's Workshop
7 Mountain

SB:
4 Leyline of the Void
3 Jester's Cap
3 Red Elemental Blast
3 Shattering Spree
2 Duplicant

12º Alejandro Escribano - UB Mask

4 Dark Confidant
4 Phyrexian Dreadnought
4 Duress
4 Force of Will
4 Stifle
2 Misdirection
1 TriCkbind
4 Brainstorm
3 Illusionary Mask
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Echoing Truth
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Lotus Petal
1 Sol Ring
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
1 Swamp
1 Volcanic Island
2 Island
3 Underground Sea
4 Polluted Delta

SB:
4 Leyline of the Void
3 Spell Snare
2 Smother
1 Pithing Needle
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Rack and Ruin
1 Hurkyl's Recall

13º Eduardo Castro - Landstill

1 Gorilla Shaman
4 Force of Will
4 Mana Drain
4 Stifle
2 Misdirection
2 Red Elemental Blast
2 Pyroblast
4 Standstill
4 Fire/Ice
3 Null Rod
2 Crucible of Worlds
2 Chain of Vapour
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Strip Mine
4 Wasteland
4 Mishra's Factory
2 Faery Conclave
1 Island
2 Steam Vents
4 Volcanic Island
2 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta

SB:
4 Pyroclasm
3 Tormod's Crypt
3 Ancient Grudge
2 Threads of Disloyalty
2 Gorilla Shaman
1 Tropical Island

14º Aurelio Crespo - GushPlatinum

2 Platinum Angel
4 Force of Will
4 Pact of Negation
3 Duress
3 Mana Drain
1 Misdirection
4 Brainstorm
4 Gush
2 Merchant Scroll
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Echoing Truth
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
4 Oath of Druids
1 Gaea's Blessing
1 Fastbond
1 Black Lotus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Volcanic Island
2 Tropical Island
2 Underground Sea
2 Island
3 Forbidden Orchard
2 Polluted Delta
3 Flooded Strand

SB:
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Simic Skyswallower
2 Oxidize
2 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Sundering Titan
1 Darkblast
1 Engineered Explosives

15º Roberto Luengo - GAT

4 Quirion Dryad
1 Psychatog
4 Force of Will
4 Duress
2 Mana Drain
2 Misdirection
1 Pyroblast
4 Brainstorm
4 Merchant Scroll
4 Gush
2 Ponder
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Echoing Truth
1 Cunning Wish
1 Fastbond
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Island
1 Volcanic Island
2 Tropical Island
3 Underground Sea
3 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta

SB:
3 Yixlid Jailer
2 Trickbind
2 Energy Flux
2 Pithing Needle
1 Berserk
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Fire/Ice
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Rack and Ruin
1 Volcanic Island

16º Carlos del Mazo - Tyrant Oath

1 Tidespout Tyrant
1 Eternal Witness
4 Chalice of the Void
4 Force of Will
3 Mana Drain
3 Thoughtseize
1 Misdirection
4 Brainstorm
2 Cunning Wish
2 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Repeal
1 Deep Analisys
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Krosan Reclamation
4 Oath of Druids
1 Mana Crypt
1 Lotus Petal
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Tropical Island
2 Underground Sea
2 Island
2 Polluted Delta
3 Flooded Stran
4 Forbidden Orchard

SB:
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Trickbind
1 Brain Freeze
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Research//Development
1 Rebuild
1 Echoing Truth
1 Misdirection
1 Tinker
1 Simic Skyswallower
1 Platinum Angel

[slyfer]

A couple of considerations , hoping not to take another verbal warning.

1) italians are clearly the best (4 italians in top8).
The winner won every single game, with the best deck for the field (gush infested)

2) we just show to the world that dark confidant + mono gift (name of the deck is TDS the dark scroll) is not only viable but is a tier1 and in US is it not considered.

3) oath + 2 tyrant is clearly the best oath deck now, other builds are suboptimal

4) TPS Ubr is still there and competitive, with or without dark confidant. That is another deck US doesn't consider, they think only long can compete.

[DuKeLiO]

The winner lost to Santiago Hoyas in the swiss rounds (round 2 I believe).

I prefer do not talk about the ill-manner of some italian players (not the champion sure, he was very polite).

There are 2 Oath builds in top16 and only one have Tyrants, the other only has Platinum Angel, and there are a lot of Tyrant Oaths than Platinum Oath in the tourney. Platinum Oath is very good also against the field.

[Cane1024]

I wonder how many American players there were.. Eric got second place. Hmm...

[Tetre]

To my knowledge, Eric was the Only American, and I was the only Canadian.

Hope this helps,
Glenn

[Cane1024]

Thanks... That's amazing that Eric was the only American (from New England too) and got second place... Hilarious... Oh but the Italians are the best...

[ILBERNA]

I prefer do not talk about the ill-manner of some italian players (not the champion sure, he was very polite).

Hi DuKeLiO,

I'm not sure on what you mean ill-manner, maybe you mean some regarding cheating or just on behaviour?

I hope you refer only about laughs ank sketches during the top 8/16 play..

Thanks for clarify,

ILBERNA

[Smmenen]

2º Eric Dupuis - GAT
"Ron Paul Revolution"


4 Ponder

http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=34921.0

2) WHERE  IS YOUR FOURTH PONDER?  Seriously.   It's, probably, the very best turn one play in gat using unrestricted cards.   It's better than Scroll cause of the predominance of Duress and its better than turn one Brainstorm most of the time.

Ponder is an absolute house.  It is better than brainstorm turn 1.  That said, I just feel the draw engine has worked fantastic so far.  The deck doesn't really need any more cantrips.  It is certainly not better than Merchant Scroll.  Scroll gives you a draw engine that is basically a free Yawgmoth's Bargain that sets up Yawgmoth's Will while it thins your deck.  Ponder gets you online, and digs.  Once you're online, Ponder starts to lose it's value. 

In time, I think you will come to see that running less than 4 Ponder is an obvious error.   

*AH-HEM*

You have some explaining to do, me thinks.

[LotusHead]

First off, thanks to Wette for putting up lists. We Americans really do read/consider them.

2) we just show to the world that dark confidant + mono gift (name of the deck is TDS the dark scroll) is not only viable but is a tier1 and in US is it not considered.

4) TPS Ubr is still there and competitive, with or without dark confidant. That is another deck US doesn't consider, they think only long can compete.

America is a big place, but Americans do study European lists.  We just assume many of these meta's are Sanctioned (no proxy) and not as entirely relevent as a 10 proxy meta.  (But I assure you that we are jealous of your 140+ turnouts. 90+, 50+ and 40+ are the biggest tournies I've been to.)

Or NorCal meta (Northern California) has been Bob-happy and Tendrils happy for years.

[Malhavoc]

There is no need for anyone to quarrel and hail their nation as the best one, so I hope such meaningless discussions will just be dropped dead.

On the other hand it would be quite interesting to discuss why certain decks just aren't considerede on the other side of the world, and I mean decks such as TDS, the darkconfidant-scroll combo-control in US as well as most of the American Grow/Gush variants on this other side of the sea. Certainly, the proxy issue puts a certain constraint on which decks are viable/played and which not. Decks like Tyrant gain a lot from an aggro-control proxyless meta where creatures are a lot, but even competitive dryads/tarmo-based decks wouldn't be too happy to see an oath hitting the table.

Other decks, instead, like the TDS mentioned above, should shine even more in a meta where hate decks aren't so widespread. Which are the reasons for this differences? Just the fact that both sides of the ocean do not look at each other? I don't think so. Lists are generally known, just usually considered out of "this side's meta"; I still think that often this is just laziness on trying new things, and even sad "we-are-good-they-are-not" thoughts, and I'm blaming european too about this, beware! ..but I could even be wrong. Certainly, quarreling about everyone's coolness doesn't help sharing ideas.

[DuKeLiO]

@ILBERNA

I mostly refer about laughs and crys in the top8/16 mostly in the italian vs. non-italian duels, and for example the italian who started to cry when he won his top16 match. I believe we were always very polite when we went to Italy to play Vintage (I am refering to my playgroup, not every spanish player beacuse I don't know every spanish player who went to Italy to play Vintage). I have gone to Nightmare tournament and Ovinoggeddon in 2006 and Ovinoggeddon 2 this year. Also I am very happy of mostly of you came here to Spain to play in our tourney, and I am also very happy for how you italians treat me when I went to italian tourneys, I only wanted to make notice of these Ill-mannered players (not the mostly, sure).


 

[ILBERNA]

@ILBERNA

I mostly refer about laughs and crys in the top8/16 mostly in the italian vs. non-italian duels, and for example the italian who started to cry when he won his top16 match. I believe we were always very polite when we went to Italy to play Vintage (I am refering to my playgroup, not every spanish player beacuse I don't know every spanish player who went to Italy to play Vintage). I have gone to Nightmare tournament and Ovinoggeddon in 2006 and Ovinoggeddon 2 this year. Also I am very happy of mostly of you came here to Spain to play in our tourney, and I am also very happy for how you italians treat me when I went to italian tourneys, I only wanted to make notice of these Ill-mannered players (not the mostly, sure).

Hi, I understand what you mean, now it's clear..
and also I understand who you refer to..
is a young guy that is playing from less then 1 year and he was "so fk happy to have no control of his actions"...

The important thing, anyhow, is that you don't refer to any cheat or similar, because only this should be bad...

maybe we also met (not in play) at nightmare and/or Ovinogeddon2

hope to meet you again

ILBERNA

[stinfo]

I am one of the italian that went in Valencia and i can explain the reason of our comportament during top 8/16.
It was vary sad had 4 italian in top 16 and can't see the match i am the organizator of Ovinogeddon 2 and i think there is no reason to prohibithed to see the macht, in fact the semi final and final are open.
So we explain in bad manner our frustrations,.

I dind't say nothing about the decklist or also, anyone is free to think that some deck is bettr that another else.

I play in spain about my next big tournament in september 2008 were all are invited this is well be the best Vintage tournament in the World and it's called EurOvino3.

The target is 400 players Eric says to me that he will came as the shop OverTheEdgeGames i'll hope to see many americans spanish french for play in a better atmosphere and why not to see wich player and wich deck is the best.

In the next months it's ready the web site of this event.

So see you soon

Bye

[ILBERNA]

America is a big place, but Americans do study European lists.  We just assume many of these meta's are Sanctioned (no proxy) and not as entirely relevent as a 10 proxy meta.  (But I assure you that we are jealous of your 140+ turnouts. 90+, 50+ and 40+ are the biggest tournies I've been to.)

Hi, that's only one of the reasons you should take a plane and come to Italy for a big tournament (15/16th march in Florence or later for EurOvino 3).
Wil be a pleasure for you and for us to have some people representing US meta in big italian tournaments... maybe also Vintage World Champion 2007 (I hope you read this Stephen..) will appreciate to play against the best Italian players and trade with us LIVE impressions and opinions on the meta differences...

I won't stress you anymore but I hope to see some of you on our next big events.

Bye all, Davide

[Lucioswill]

hi guys, this is my first post here on the mana drain!
i am an italian player, unfortunately i wasn't at Valencia. it was a pity, as everyone here is talking about that like something very special, not only the tournament but also city and spanish people.

talking about the differences in our metagame compared with spain or usa, it seems quite clear that the main fact is to have or not to have proxies.
in italy, before starting a tournament, you have to think if your deck can beat not only workshops decks,control and combo, but also aggro and aggro control decks, in different shapes. this is obviously due to the lack of proxies, and surely alterates the metagame.

the result is that some deck in italy is just viable and in usa it is a tier1 and vice versa.
also, in our country people LOVE some card, eg mana drain, which is heavily played in md.gift like builds with dark confidant, and that makes it a tier1 here; while in other countries they just think "hey, this deck is insane! let's dump the old one and try something new!". we are more conservative and we look with suspect at the new builds, also looking at the "aesthetical" side of the game.

the typical italian player wants to play control, or, if he plays combo, he will probably choose storm combo or something like that, nearly no one thinks at combo like "turn one kill" decks.

so...no-one plays flash, while everybody fear it and add more sideboard cards against it
same for ichorid, even if somebody play that
we have many drain or control decks
some gat, many workshop decks
and of course aggro and aggro control, in a remarkable quantity.
storm combo as well

this ends my little detour on the italian metagame, hoping not to have bored you ^^'

btw, i really like Eric's list, playing with 8 pitch seems very funny!

i beg your pardon for any english mistake i've done!
bye

[arj]

America is a big place, but Americans do study European lists.  We just assume many of these meta's are Sanctioned (no proxy) and not as entirely relevent as a 10 proxy meta.  (But I assure you that we are jealous of your 140+ turnouts. 90+, 50+ and 40+ are the biggest tournies I've been to.)

Hi, that's only one of the reasons you should take a plane and come to Italy for a big tournament (15/16th march in Florence or later for EurOvino 3).
Wil be a pleasure for you and for us to have some people representing US meta in big italian tournaments... maybe also Vintage World Champion 2007 (I hope you read this Stephen..) will appreciate to play against the best Italian players and trade with us LIVE impressions and opinions on the meta differences...

I won't stress you anymore but I hope to see some of you on our next big events.

Bye all, Davide

Could you make a post about this in the announcement forum so that we can see what the prices will be, where it will be, how to get there etc.

Thanks

[ILBERNA]

Could you make a post about this in the announcement forum so that we can see what the prices will be, where it will be, how to get there etc.

Thanks

Hi arj, it's in progress, within next week we try to post some info to be always updated...

Ciao, ILBERNA