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Abyssal Reaper
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March 18, 2008, 10:54:04 pm »
Abyssal Reaper
2BB
Creature - Spirit
Flying
When Abyssal Reaper comes into play, target player loses 4 life and target creature gets -4/-4 until end of turn.
When Abyssal Reaper leaves play, you lose 4 life.
At the beginning of your upkeep, you lose 4 life and sacrifice an artifact, creature, or land.
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I thought this was an interesting symmetrical idea. Note how it can come into play and kill itself to make each player just lose 4 life for 2BB.
It's very suicidal and very aggressive, like the black creatures of Tempest/Urza's era design. When I think "black creatures that are awesome" I think of that flavor and those specific creatures.
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Anusien
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Re: Abyssal Reaper
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March 19, 2008, 01:19:40 pm »
This card does way too much. Too many abilities on the same card; it's needlessly complicated.
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Re: Abyssal Reaper
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March 19, 2008, 01:24:23 pm »
Quote from: Anusien on March 19, 2008, 01:19:40 pm
This card does way too much. Too many abilities on the same card; it's needlessly complicated.
Really? I don't see what's complicated about this. Whether it's a good idea or not is another issue, but complicated... ?
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March 19, 2008, 01:29:11 pm »
Not complicated in the sense of "difficult to understand" but complicated on the fact that it does so much. Very few cards have four separate abilities. It has a static ability, a CIP trigger, a leaves play trigger, AND an upkeep trigger. What's even worse is that all three of the triggers are similar but different at a point; there is a huge difference in the way the CIP or the upkeep trigger act relative to the different in text. Same for CIP and leaves play.
Plus, I also have a feeling this is too good for 2BB.
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