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« on: June 20, 2008, 06:16:24 pm »

This is to mirror the one on scg:

It seems wizards wants to know our favorite constructed format, so they put the question in a column most Vintage players that I know never visit.

To offset this go vote for Vintage now at the bottom: http://wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/dl42

Someone can put this on the mana drain somewhere or other vintage communities I don't know about, I don't have an account there.



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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2008, 04:19:18 am »

Just voted, but i'm guessing that vintage will still be at the bottom Sad

Oh well, atleast the % might not be all that bad.

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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2008, 07:19:07 am »

Voted for Vintage.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2008, 07:37:20 am »

Voted and spread the word!
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2008, 08:10:00 am »

I Voted for Vintage!
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2008, 10:42:54 am »

Voted for Legacy!
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2008, 02:10:31 pm »

Voted for Legacy!

I think you missed.
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2008, 07:43:21 pm »

Voted for Legacy!
I think you missed.
I voted what I meant and I meant what I voted.
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2008, 08:49:02 pm »

I voted for vintage, though at this point my interests are drifting towards legacy.
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2008, 11:05:28 pm »

Success!

Sort of...

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/dl43

There is no way we roused up 3100 votes...

I wonder if Wizards inflated the vote counts...
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2008, 11:33:05 pm »

We The Mana Drain wouldn't have roused 3100 votes, no. But as Low points out at the end, Vintage also describes casual players that just want to use Sol Ring and Demonic Tutor. I'm surprised we finished where we did, but the vote count seems plausible. 
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2008, 02:28:28 am »

Interesting, and a bit weird....But it's definetly a success!

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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2008, 08:19:27 am »

I am proud of the result we pulled out, I did vote for Vintage as a lot of us did, but not as a casual player. It kind of got to me when I read the last part where he was wondering how many votes were from casual or tournament vintage's players that pulled out this result. I wrote down an e-mail to him:

Dear Devin Low,
  Regarding your article "MerFolklore": it's more about the result from last week's poll! Is Wizards of the coast do that as an habit, neglecting the fact that there is a strong vintage community out there?

  I meant why didn't you took those result and analyzed them saying: "It's interesting that the word "Standard" here includes both hardcore "Tarmogoyf" and "Wilt-Leaf Liege" Pro tours tournament deck and casual Merfolk decks that want to play "Deepchannel Mentor"and "Inkfathom Witch". It definitely makes me curious what proportion of the voters who picked “Standard” are in each of those two categories.

  When it come to "Vintage", Wizards have the bad habit of trying to neglect the fact that there is a strong tournament scene out there, that they do not support at all.

  Please, don't come out and says, we do one tournament per year. If you did one tournament a year for "Standard" do you think people would be buy you product that much? Even if the prize is a one of a kind oversize "Tarmogoyf" with alternate art.

   When I saw this vote, I saw an opportunity to voice out the fact that we existed, that we as a community, were valued by Wizards. I hoped you would take to result to Mark Rosewater and tell him: Mark, it's incredible, why didn't we care more about those guys, and grant them the chance to be part of a structured and ranked tournament scene, why Wizards is not allowing 10 proxy tournament to be ranked and legal. This way we would know how much of those guys are playing out there, and have real statistic to have a better understanding of what is going out there and not just improvise the band and restrict list as we do, we were blind for so long now I see the light, oh thank God to have gave me such the great idea to ask for this poll!

  Don't forget as an employee of Wizards of the coast you voice, is their voice, so when I read your article, I see that the reviewed it and approved it, so they agreed with what it saids.

  I hope you will seriously reconsider the result of this poll and do something better than that with it.

  Vintage need your respect and your support as much as "Standard" does. Without your support we managed to build a strong community; with your support, it would become something probably as huge as "Standard" is.   


I think it's important to make them understand that we exist as a community and that they should respect and support us as much as they do for the rest of magic's communities. It seem as vintage is the "enfant terrible" of Wizards.

Have a nice day and I encourage you to voice out your opinion to Wizards, so maybe together we will have a positive impact on the ranked tournament scene.
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2008, 10:16:04 am »

I also noticed the vote - and was impressed by the number of Vintage votes.  I'd like to echo one point I saw on the Wizards forums, that was that the poll did ask for "constructed format", which in my mind as well is different from a casual format.  If they added Cube, Type4, Multiplayer, or EDH to the list of options, I don't see the results changing that dramatically.

I would encourage a follow-up poll if they're that curious - ask how many meant casual vs. competitive.
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2008, 03:07:04 pm »

The Link to the poll was posted in various forums in Europe and I also called for voting on morphling.de. All of this advertisement may have summed up to the high number of vintage votes.
And I guess noone called the Standard or Legacy community for voting, so the result may be a bit one-sided.

But nevertheless, it is an impressive result.
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