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Author Topic: Trying out UB Human Wizards: Stifle-Naught and a Drain Deck  (Read 1933 times)
Naurion
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« on: June 26, 2008, 09:24:54 pm »

So I'm thinking of coming out of retirement after over a year break. The format had some big changes since I played (Gifts restricted, Gush unrestricted, Manaless Ichorid invented, the Drednaught and Flash errata, Painter's Servant printed and finally the most recent list of restrictions).   

So, based on all that I did some research and got myself up-to-speed. Then I started looking at what might be popular based on some threads on TMD and a site I did not previously know - magiceternal.com. To me it looks like CS, Ichorid, Grim Long, Painter's decks, Stifle-Naught, and Shop decks are possible contenders, and maybe some fish in there.

The last deck I played in a Tournament was Grim Long, so I could just pick up from there, but since there isn't a set metagame yet, I was thinking I could try to put something else competitive and fun together. So I made a list of annoying cards I think will see play, and from there I could start Brainstorming (but only once, lol). That included:

Wasteland, Stifle, Duresses, Chalice, Leyline, Spheres, Magus, Null Rod, Pithing Needle, Tendrils

I tried to keep this list in mind while I scribbled down several ideas. I didn't plan on making a Stifle-Naught deck, but I thought it might be fun to play Dark Confidant and Trinket Mage, and it just happened. Other cards high on my list were FoW, Duresses, Stifle and Sensei's Divining Top. Before I quit my absolute favorite deck was Gifts, and I also liked SS at the time. All of those things are reflected in both of these decks.

I still don't know if there are any standard versions of this kind of deck, but here are a couple of versions I came up with:


Human Wizards
Version 1: Aggro-Control

(22 Mana)
5 Moxen
1 Black Lotus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Strip Mine
3 Wasteland
4 Polluted Delta
2 Underground Sea
1 Swamp
3 Island

(10 Creatures)
4 Dark Confidant
3 Trinket Mage
2 Ninja of Deep Hours/Dimir Cutpurse
1 Phyrexian Drednaught

(6 Tutors/Draw)
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Brainstorm

(18 Disruption)
4 Force of Will
3 Thoughtseize
2 Duress
3 Stifle
2 Spell Snare/Daze
2 Counterbalance
1 Echoing Truth

(5 Toolbox)
2 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Aether Spellbomb
1 T. Crypt/Pithing Needle

This is a two color, more Aggro-Control version that seems fun. I thought Ninjistsu on Trinket Mage might make for some insane CA, but might not happen that often. I stuck Counterbalance in there last, but haven't played it in a non-type 2 format. I don't know if Spell Snare is maindeck material, but could at least go in the side.


Human Wizards
Version 2: Less Aggro, more Control

(24 Mana)
5 Moxen
1 Black Lotus
1 Lotus Petal
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand
2 Underground Sea
2 Volcanic Island
1 Swamp
3 Island

(8 Creatures)
4 Dark Confidant
3 Trinket Mage
1 Darksteel Colossus

(11 Tutors/Draw)
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Tinker
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Brainstorm
3 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Yawgmoth's Will

(12 Disruption)
4 Force of Will
3 Mana Drain
3 Thoughtseize
1 Duress
1 Echoing Truth

(5 Toolbox)
2 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Aether Spellbomb
1 T. Crypt/Pithing Needle/Pyrite Spellbomb

Here I try for something more controlling and give the option for red cards in the sideboard (REB, RnR, Empty the Warrens), which I'm considering for the maindeck as well. This Started out as Stifle-Naught, but I thought Tinker-DSC might get it done just as well (plus I get to pull out Optimus Prime, my personal altered Tinker-DSC) .

Sideboards for either would contain some of the regulars: Engineered Explosives, Leyline, Yixlid Jailer, Extirpate, Pithing Needle, Hurkyl's Recall, Energy Flux (?), and maybe Sower of Temptation. REBs, Pyroclasm, Empty the Warrens and artifact destruction are also candidates for the red version.


I don't know how well either of these would do since I haven't tested. I don't have any of the cards - I sold out last year - so I'm appealing to your experience and knowledge of the format to help me decide if either of these, or some combination of the two, is worth investing in.

If you think I might be wasting my time, what other decks would you suggest? I played Gifts for over a year and Grim Long in Tournaments. I also played a lot of other combo, SS and the pre-Bridge/Narco/Wraith version of Ichorid. So I have that experience to bring to the new format. If anyone lives in the DC area, I'm going to need people to test with too.

Any suggests for either deck, decklists/links of decks similar to these would be a great help.
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2008, 10:15:46 pm »

Hey I play almost the same list as your version 1.  One thing i run in addition is illusionary mask, and i have found it to be pretty much amazing.  It is the way to beat Control slaver as far as i can tell, which is pretty prevalent.  If you choose to go that route you may have to cut some disruption for more dreadnoughts, but more 12/12s has worked out ok for me. 
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2008, 12:04:14 pm »

Ninjas are terrible without a good number of 1-drops.  You need to go

turn 1: 1 drop
turn 2: ninjutsu

or else the ninja's really become terribly-costed 2/2's.
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