Timing question

[SEEEZZRR]

hey i actually have a semi stupid question about tommys list

i had an argument with a friend to day while testing an exact copy of his list vs mana-less ichorid.

he sac'd 3 Narcomoebas for a dread return

i wanted to sac a Glen Endra Archmage to counter his dread and remove his bridges

that does work doesnt it?

[M.Solymossy]

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[SEEEZZRR]

so with dread on the stack, with the bridge triggers above it i should be able to respond with glens ability shouldn't I?

[LordHomerCat]

It works, if you do it correctly.

The stack will look like this when you get priority:

TOP
Bridge Trigger 1
Bridge Trigger 2
Bridge Trigger 3
Dread Return
BOTTOM

At this point, you get priority.  You have two options: Sac your archmage now, or wait until all the bridges resolve and then sac him.  If you do the latter, 3 zombies will appear (per bridge) and then you get to counter DR and he doesnt get a huge dude.  However, if you do the former, then the stack will become:

TOP
Bridge RFG Trigger
Glen Elendra persist ability
Glen Elendra ability targeting Dread Return
Bridge Trigger 1
Bridge Trigger 2
Bridge Trigger 3
Dread Return
BOTTOM

So, you'll RFG all the bridges, your archmage will come back as a 1/1, then you'll counter the DR, then the other bridge triggers will resolve and do nothing (thanks to that handy intervening If clause on Bridge).  So, the board will be: you have an Archmage with a -1/-1 counter on it, your opponent has all his bridges removed from the game and no narcomoebas and no (extra) zombies in play.

Short answer: Yes, you can do what you want, although you will have to make sure you respond at the correct time (in Soly's description, you would not be making a good choice waiting that long).

[ashiXIII]

It works, if you do it correctly.

The stack will look like this when you get priority:

TOP
Bridge Trigger 1
Bridge Trigger 2
Bridge Trigger 3
Dread Return
BOTTOM

At this point, you get priority.  You have two options: Sac your archmage now, or wait until all the bridges resolve and then sac him.  If you do the latter, 3 zombies will appear (per bridge) and then you get to counter DR and he doesnt get a huge dude.  However, if you do the former, then the stack will become:

TOP
Bridge RFG Trigger
Glen Elendra persist ability
Glen Elendra ability targeting Dread Return
Bridge Trigger 1
Bridge Trigger 2
Bridge Trigger 3
Dread Return
BOTTOM

So, you'll RFG all the bridges, your archmage will come back as a 1/1, then you'll counter the DR, then the other bridge triggers will resolve and do nothing (thanks to that handy intervening If clause on Bridge).  So, the board will be: you have an Archmage with a -1/-1 counter on it, your opponent has all his bridges removed from the game and no narcomoebas and no (extra) zombies in play.

Short answer: Yes, you can do what you want, although you will have to make sure you respond at the correct time (in Soly's description, you would not be making a good choice waiting that long).

The end result is the same, but this is actually slightly off. The Glen Elendra and Bridge triggers should be the other way.

[LordHomerCat]

Ya you're right, I had the Active/Non-active player order mixed up (forgot that it would be the dredge player's turn).  My mistake.

[SEEEZZRR]

thanks to all