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« Reply #1080 on: September 10, 2010, 08:29:17 am » |
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I don't like Arbiter for not playing nice with Stoneforge Mystic, but otherwise I think it's got potential. White's tax mechanic is a good angle to take in regard to its aggro-control, and it's something that could always use more fleshing out; Suppression Field, Glowrider, this guy, Propaganda, Kataki, Aven Mindcensor, etc. I can hear Don LaFontaine singing its praises now - "In a world where your fetchlands cost 4 to activate... "
It's too bad about Mystic though, at least in Legacy that card has a really potent effect against an aggro field - MoR + Mystic + silver bullet Equipment = hotness, and this new guy directly fucks with that. If Leonin Arbiter's effect proves to be strong enough there won't be a reason to run the Mystic, which means no toolbox equipment card face-punching, which I really like to do. :( OTOH if Arbiter matters less than it seems like it does it'll make Yet Another Bear on the sideboard, forever fighting with True Believer for table scraps.
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« Reply #1081 on: September 10, 2010, 10:51:17 am » |
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Well in weenie style decks in Legacy, you have AEther Vial. I really like the idea of vialing in this guy and stopping fetches in response.
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« Reply #1082 on: September 10, 2010, 01:35:43 pm » |
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I like it. Mana Myr plus two of this guy (or copies) makes for really really simply infinites. Jank for sure, but infinites nonetheless. Edit: Took the IMG out of the quote |
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I suppose it's mostly the thought that this format is just one big Mistake; and not even a very sophisticated one at that.
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« Reply #1083 on: September 10, 2010, 03:05:24 pm » |
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 Yet another option for Storm type decks to maximize their Hurkyl's Recalls |
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« Reply #1084 on: September 10, 2010, 04:26:50 pm » |
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Painsmith -> Hurkyl's -> Rite of Consumption? I'd be curious to see a storm combo build focused on 4x mainboard Hurkyl's and some Rebuilds. It might even be able to fit 3-4 Opals. Inherently having outs to Spheres/Chalice/Rod could be nice.
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I suppose it's mostly the thought that this format is just one big Mistake; and not even a very sophisticated one at that.
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« Reply #1086 on: September 10, 2010, 06:25:00 pm » |
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This is interesting.  Between Shrapnel Blast and this new thing, Affinity has the best mana-to-damage ratio for burn spells of any deck. I'm really looking forward to this new set. |
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« Reply #1087 on: September 10, 2010, 06:31:52 pm » |
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I think it suffers from "Worse than Tendrils" since it requires the same 2BB to win  True enough. It is notable though, that dropping Smith a turn earlier lets you split that cost across two turns, and also lets you storm out at 4 instead of 9. If you have the gas to cast nine artifacts with an active Smith, you also might not neet to cast the Rite at all. Still probably not worth the vulnerability to creature removal though. Shrug. |
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« Reply #1088 on: September 13, 2010, 01:43:59 am » |
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 Sometimes we shop players like to run equipment., and this guy is (almost) immune to trygon predator.  |
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« Reply #1089 on: September 13, 2010, 01:49:42 am » |
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Sometimes we shop players like to run equipment., and this guy is (almost) immune to trygon predator. I like him with sofi, I agree with you seems like could be fun |
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« Reply #1090 on: September 13, 2010, 06:11:14 am » |
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Sometimes we shop players like to run equipment., and this guy is (almost) immune to trygon predator. Screw that - Shop, Mox, This T1 seems pretty decent. Follow that with a lock piece or two and you're all set for smiting. |
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« Reply #1091 on: September 13, 2010, 10:55:01 am » |
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Screw that - Shop, Mox, This T1 seems straight worse than Lodestone or Jugs
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« Reply #1092 on: September 13, 2010, 11:30:36 am » |
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Too bad Etched Champion kinda sucks. I was expecting a 4/4 for  given that name and recent power creep. |
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #1093 on: September 13, 2010, 02:36:59 pm » |
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Yeah I am having trouble getting excited about Etched Champion. I'm with Dub; the power creep over the last few years makes this guy more of a 'neat' card than a competitive one. People have talked about it @ the Source in some kind of jankety 'mid-range Affinity' shell, and I can appreciate the scariness of one of these guys holding a Cranial Plating. But other than that it's a 2/2 for 3 in a world of 3/3s for 1 and even bigger Goyfs, can't block Ionas or Tombstalkers or Larit Mages and it will never cost less than 3 in a deck that really only wants to pay 3 if it's dropping a Plating and swinging or like, doing 9 to the dome.
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« Reply #1094 on: September 13, 2010, 10:42:42 pm » |
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« Reply #1095 on: September 14, 2010, 01:25:21 am » |
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God damn. Anyone remember a time when 4/4 flyers for 4 mana had icky drawbacks? Thought Devourer anyone? Anyone?
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« Reply #1096 on: September 14, 2010, 10:54:38 am » |
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« Reply #1097 on: September 14, 2010, 10:56:34 am » |
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This guy seems good in some type of deck with Bazaar and artifacts.... Hey, a good reason to run Channel is Dredge decks! LOL |
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« Reply #1098 on: September 14, 2010, 11:48:38 am » |
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To anyone familiar with MTGbuzz.com,
There were links to a site on the upper right of mtgbuzz that would take you to a site that had all of the spoiler cards for a set as they are spoiled. Does anyone know the name of this site? mtgbuzz seems to be down and I want to look at the list.
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« Reply #1100 on: September 14, 2010, 12:14:55 pm » |
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This guy seems good in some type of deck with Bazaar and artifacts.... Hey, a good reason to run Channel is Dredge decks! LOL Does dredge get 3+ artifacts into play regularly? |
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« Reply #1102 on: September 14, 2010, 01:47:22 pm » |
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Too bad Etched Champion kinda sucks. I was expecting a 4/4 for given that name and recent power creep. He's not bad when you compare him to something like Stillmoon Cavalier. Probably not that great in eternal formats, but probably decent in Standard where walls and stuff see play. |
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« Reply #1103 on: September 15, 2010, 02:17:12 am » |
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« Reply #1104 on: September 15, 2010, 08:30:50 am » |
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Ha!
Man I miss Skullclamp.
I sort of wish Myrsmith wasn't a shitty Wirewood Hivemaster. Those tokens could probably cost 0.
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« Reply #1105 on: September 15, 2010, 05:02:43 pm » |
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That is a pretty cute combo for a Trinket Mage based deck.
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« Reply #1106 on: September 15, 2010, 07:45:58 pm » |
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Those tokens could probably cost 0.
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« Reply #1107 on: September 15, 2010, 07:53:08 pm » |
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Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
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« Reply #1108 on: September 15, 2010, 07:55:08 pm » |
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Well, it could be worse. They could have reprinted Chimney Imp:  |
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« Reply #1109 on: September 15, 2010, 08:39:55 pm » |
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Those tokens could probably cost 0.
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