An important notice about proxies

[Suicideking]

Did ELD find out who complained/contacted wizards about his clearly small scale proxy thing?

Im pretty sure you will find the guy here.
http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=24419&title=the-playa-haters-ball

[Harlequin]

...  As I stated previously, however, Wizards does not have a problem with you making proxies for your own personal use.

Typical.  It's funny that the next time Jer's like "Hey Jeff, Make me some proxies while I write my decklist" If I do, I'm not in accordance with Wizards pollicy... but If he makes them himself, thats fine?

Lines in the sand I guess.

All in all, I think the proxy thing had run it's course.  I mean we were kinda scraping the bottom of the barrel on cards worth making into ELD Proxies.  I was expecting to see the end of the ELD proxy doorprizes soon (what with the kid and all), but I never thought it would end like this. 

Anyway, good run while it lasted.  How does this effect future tournements? Can they no longer be advertized as saying "ELD Proxies do not count towards the limit?"

[M.Solymossy]

I am a lawyer. 

BEST. ARGUMENT. EVER.

[LotusHead]

I only with the best for Vintage, and of the practice of allowing say 10 proxies as a serious metagame/community enhancer.

I (as are many) am troubled by the WizardsOTC actions vs ELD, who, like me, care about the Vintage Scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KejXD2zacbM

My first ever YouTube vid (and by far, most popular). 
Christopher Rush drew Black Lotus on Foil Blank Card... not much different from ELD proxies.

What do you think of this?

an Artist who drew Magic Cards, re-creating/re-imaging/doing for fun Iconic magic cards that they were involved in drawing the original art for.

Proxy Issues aside, how is this different from MTG's dealings with ELD"s proxies?

Thoughts?

[Vegeta2711]

Christopher Rush drew Black Lotus on Foil Blank Card... not much different from ELD proxies.

Of course it's different. There's a huge difference between what Rush did and what ELD did. Rush is the original artist. He can still sell his own artwork. The copyright belongs to WOTC as soon as he signs on the dotted line to do a commission piece for them, but the original artist can still create / sell his own work, variations and recreations of said work as far as Magic art goes.

[Dante]

Christopher Rush drew Black Lotus on Foil Blank Card... not much different from ELD proxies.

Of course it's different. There's a huge difference between what Rush did and what ELD did. Rush is the original artist. He can still sell his own artwork. The copyright belongs to WOTC as soon as he signs on the dotted line to do a commission piece for them, but the original artist can still create / sell his own work, variations and recreations of said work as far as Magic art goes.

While that may be true for all the original artists, one of the reasons all the old school artists left (e.g. the artist who did the A/B/U and early set art) is that WoTC wanted them to come on as employees who made salary/hourly for their time (and WoTC controlled all the art), rather than the commission method the first batch of artists operated under.  I'm not sure what the legality of it is now in terms of who owns/controls the art, but I remember being disappointed when the whole slew of original artists left and one of them explained it briefly at a Con way back.

[TracerBullet]

Christopher Rush drew Black Lotus on Foil Blank Card... not much different from ELD proxies.

Of course it's different. There's a huge difference between what Rush did and what ELD did. Rush is the original artist. He can still sell his own artwork. The copyright belongs to WOTC as soon as he signs on the dotted line to do a commission piece for them, but the original artist can still create / sell his own work, variations and recreations of said work as far as Magic art goes.

While that may be true for all the original artists, one of the reasons all the old school artists left (e.g. the artist who did the A/B/U and early set art) is that WoTC wanted them to come on as employees who made salary/hourly for their time (and WoTC controlled all the art), rather than the commission method the first batch of artists operated under.  I'm not sure what the legality of it is now in terms of who owns/controls the art, but I remember being disappointed when the whole slew of original artists left and one of them explained it briefly at a Con way back.

Mark Poole and Quinton Hoover were the guys to talk to about this, if I remember correctly.  I know for a while that WotC controlled the art (up until I had this conversation with a couple people circa 2005), but more than that, and I'd just try contacting Poole.