Dragonstorm

[honestabe]

Just an idea......

for fun really

Sorceries
4x Dragonstorm
3x Duress
2x Thought Sieze
1x Demonic Tutor
4x Rite of Flame

Artifacts
1x Black Lotus
3x Lotus Bloom
1x Lotus Petal
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Jet
1x Chrome Mox
1x Mox Diamond
1x Sol Ring

Creatures
3x Bogardan Hellkite
1x Hellkite Overlord
4x Simian Spirit Guide

Instants
1x Vampiric Tutor
4x Pact of Negation
4x Seething Song
1x Imperial Seal

Land
2x Bloodstained Mire
2x Wooded Foothills
4x Badlands
2x Motlen Stagheap
3x Great Furnace
1x Library of Alexandria
1x Tolarian Academy

Side Board
4x Red Elemental Blast
4x Tormod’s Crypt
4x Empty the Warrens
3x Chalice of the Void




I've also been playtesting with dark rituals instead of Rite of Flames, but i'm not done testing yet

[Lurker101]

If you want more people to reply to this you'll have to explain how the deck works, your card choices, and why you think it's viable/playable.

[honestabe]

Just an idea......

for fun really

Sorceries
4x Dragonstorm
3x Duress
2x Thought Sieze
1x Demonic Tutor
4x Rite of Flame

Artifacts
1x Black Lotus
3x Lotus Bloom
1x Lotus Petal
1x Mox Pearl
1x Mox Sapphire
1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Ruby
1x Mox Jet
1x Chrome Mox
1x Mox Diamond
1x Sol Ring

Creatures
3x Bogardan Hellkite
1x Hellkite Overlord
4x Simian Spirit Guide

Instants
1x Vampiric Tutor
4x Pact of Negation
4x Seething Song
1x Imperial Seal

Land
2x Bloodstained Mire
2x Wooded Foothills
4x Badlands
2x Motlen Stagheap
3x Great Furnace
1x Library of Alexandria
1x Tolarian Academy

Side Board
4x Red Elemental Blast
4x Tormod’s Crypt
4x Empty the Warrens
3x Chalice of the Void




I've also been playtesting with dark rituals instead of Rite of Flames, but i'm not done testing yet

Ok, the point of the deck is the same as the type 2 decks of years past.  Get as much acceleration as possible, with as many spells as possible, and hardcast Dragonstorm, to put into play 3 Bogardan Hellkites and a Hellkite Overlord VERY early in the game for a win that turn

As far as protection goes, i chose duress and thoughtsieze, as well as Pact of Negation.  Pact seems a bit scary to put into the deck, but if I can use it to successfully cast dragonstorm, who cares about next turn?  Once i get the three bogardan hellkites and Hellkite overlord out, the game will most likely be over that turn.

As far as search goes, just cheap cards (Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal and Demonic Tutor).

Lands, I need some black and red mana producers, so badlands are neccisary.  Tolarian Academy with help much, with the large amount of artifacts.  So what if they give blue mana, I only need one red for dragonstorm.

Acceleration consists of the moxen, Sol Ring, Black Lotus, 3 Lotus Blooms (which can be played for zero the turn I cast storm just for the storm ability, or played ahead of time and used as a mana source).  seething Song, Rite of Flame and Simian Spirit Guide are also great ways to accelerate the deck for the possible turn one win.

[nineisnoone]

Suspend 3 (four turns) is way too long for a pure combo deck in Vintage.  For reference, Dark Ritual -> Phyrexian Negator wins in 5 turns. 

I don't especially think the deck is viable, but if you really wanted to make it work the first step would be to cut Lotus Bloom (because it is too slow) and Simian Spirit Guide (because it doesn't generate storm) and figure out someway to Storm without them.  I would probably just run 4x Hellkite Overlord since you would only need to storm to 3 to win with him.

[Chill79]

When playing black allready,why not go all theway..

Take Blooms/SSG out and Rituals+Will+Tendrils in..

Make it storm deck that goes for D-storm but backup Tendrils 

[GrandpaBelcher]

Why not just play RG or RBg Belcher?  You don't have to storm, so SSG (and ESG) are good and you only have to make seven mana to win rather than nine.  This deck does look like fun, but I'm not sure it's more viable than Belcher, which is itself tenuous for most people anyway.  What turn does this deck usually combo?

[honestabe]

Suspend 3 (four turns) is way too long for a pure combo deck in Vintage.  For reference, Dark Ritual -> Phyrexian Negator wins in 5 turns. 

I don't especially think the deck is viable, but if you really wanted to make it work the first step would be to cut Lotus Bloom (because it is too slow) and Simian Spirit Guide (because it doesn't generate storm) and figure out someway to Storm without them.  I would probably just run 4x Hellkite Overlord since you would only need to storm to 3 to win with him.

The lotus blooms are more of just spells that i can play for zero to generate storm than an actual mana source


And yes, this deck isn't really viable, but more of something for fun.


As of right now, I'm casting storm on average, turn 3 or 4, but honestly, it has gone of turn one

[LordHomerCat]

Suspend 3 (four turns) is way too long for a pure combo deck in Vintage.  For reference, Dark Ritual -> Phyrexian Negator wins in 5 turns. 

I don't especially think the deck is viable, but if you really wanted to make it work the first step would be to cut Lotus Bloom (because it is too slow) and Simian Spirit Guide (because it doesn't generate storm) and figure out someway to Storm without them.  I would probably just run 4x Hellkite Overlord since you would only need to storm to 3 to win with him.

The lotus blooms are more of just spells that i can play for zero to generate storm than an actual mana source


And yes, this deck isn't really viable, but more of something for fun.


As of right now, I'm casting storm on average, turn 3 or 4, but honestly, it has gone of turn one

I might be reading you wrong, but you are aware of how Lotus Bloom works right?  As in, you cannot just cast it for zero since it doesn't actually have a mana cost.  You HAVE to suspend it if you want to play it (barring welding it in or something weird like that), you can't just play it on the turn you go off for zero, it would have to un-suspend on that turn to matter.

[Redirus92]

Suspend 3 (four turns) is way too long for a pure combo deck in Vintage.  For reference, Dark Ritual -> Phyrexian Negator wins in 5 turns. 

I don't especially think the deck is viable, but if you really wanted to make it work the first step would be to cut Lotus Bloom (because it is too slow) and Simian Spirit Guide (because it doesn't generate storm) and figure out someway to Storm without them.  I would probably just run 4x Hellkite Overlord since you would only need to storm to 3 to win with him.

The lotus blooms are more of just spells that i can play for zero to generate storm than an actual mana source


And yes, this deck isn't really viable, but more of something for fun.


As of right now, I'm casting storm on average, turn 3 or 4, but honestly, it has gone of turn one

I might be reading you wrong, but you are aware of how Lotus Bloom works right?  As in, you cannot just cast it for zero since it doesn't actually have a mana cost.  You HAVE to suspend it if you want to play it (barring welding it in or something weird like that), you can't just play it on the turn you go off for zero, it would have to un-suspend on that turn to matter.

LOL, thats what I wa thinking. Who let him get away with that?
I think you just ruined his deck, LOL

[BruiZar]

if those were the rules i'd be stocking up on blooms right now

[Legendre]

Mana Vault and Crypt would serve as better accelerants than the SSG with storming out in mind.  Although perhaps this is a moot point now that the whole Lotus Bloom thing has been addressed.

I don't think the Chrome Mox has any place in a deck like this, you don't have any major draw engine that would allow you to throw away card advantage for imprints.  In any case it makes little sense as a one-of.

[honestabe]

Yeah the lotus bloom thing kind of killed the deck

[Purple Hat]

if you're trying to win on storm 4 why not just play 4xkokusho as your targets.  no attacking required.  the first two come into play, kill eachother, opponent loses 10, you gain 10, the second two come into play kill eachother you win.

[honestabe]

Well, I figured the smae thing with Bogardan Hellkite, to deal 5 pts of damage to the opponent, but with the option to take out a platinum angel, and the Hellkite overlord, just in case of the possibilty of a runed halo, or some other sort of simaler spell.