Weird vintage format.

[oneofchaos]

Ok so the vintage format at my store is now 0 proxy.  It is also 2v2 teams battle and not 2hg.  Also it is random team pairings...
Now I have 4 drains, 1 sapphire, 1 loa, and a manabase to play w/e. 
What exactly is my best option for such a random metagame???

-Dave

[T00L]

ichorid. if its teams you just have the other guy make sure that you don't lose.

[TopSecret]

A Drain deck with Erayo, Soratami Ascendent in it.

[zeus-online]

First team mate should play mono blue with 4 misdirections, 4 negates etc. and the other guy should play some combo deck that can wipe two players like dragon or vault/key.

/Zeus

[oneofchaos]

Random team pairings!!

I don't have bazaars/shops etc.  I was thinking about playing belcher, and killing off one teamate and hoping to kill the other before he got a chance to do anything.

[zeus-online]

Okay, then go with Vault/key control....Countermagic is probably stronger then Duress effects since you're not likely to know which one to target with the duress's.

[Diakonov]

Standstill is really busted in team formats.  It reads, "Each of that player's opponents draw three cards."  Mystic Remora is great also. 

Vault/Key is probably the way to go for a win condition, because you instantly beat both opponents.

[oneofchaos]

Last time I ran a painter list and destroyed.  Any idea on a decklist including 1 loa, 1 sapphire, 4 drains?

[Tha Gunslinga]

What exactly is my best option for such a random metagame???

Find a new store?

[Yare]

What exactly is my best option for such a random metagame???

Find a new store?

While I second this sentiment, I would suggest that you build a combo deck that can defeat both opponents by itself (preferably without passing the turn). I would assume that your teammate will be worthless every round. Vault/Key of some sort seems like the obvious choice.

[zeus-online]

I would assume that your teammate will be worthless every round.

I 2nd that, since you do not know who you'll be teaming up with you'll have to assume that he is not a benefit.

/Zeus

[oneofchaos]

I would assume that your teammate will be worthless every round.

I 2nd that, since you do not know who you'll be teaming up with you'll have to assume that he is not a benefit.

/Zeus

Last time my teammate proudly told me he cut incinerate from his burn deck to play book burning instead!

[wiley]

I would assume that your teammate will be worthless every round.

I 2nd that, since you do not know who you'll be teaming up with you'll have to assume that he is not a benefit.

/Zeus

Last time my teammate proudly told me he cut incinerate from his burn deck to play book burning instead!

Did you at least tell him to target you so you could build up a yawg will?  It might have a chance of dealing six in that case.

[zeus-online]

Well if people are playing cards that i wouldn't let near my casual decks you should atleast have a pretty decent chance, even with a worthless teammate

I can't imagine a deck where book burning would be good...Never seen a burn/mill deck ^^

/Zeus

[oneofchaos]

Yea...the store is a little bit hillarious. 

[Almighty]

Sounds like a tournament where you can break out the kitchen table decks and have a ball. I suggest doing a 5 pack cube draft and making 60 cards out of those.

[TopSecret]

I'm with Almighty on this.
If that Book Burning player is like most of the people in the store,
you should bring an awesome casual deck and have some fun.

Unless of course, you're fully intent on crushing people's dreams every tournament.
If you're going to do that, do it right and play Stasis.

So, do you want awesome casual deck ideas
or are you going to be that guy and bring Stasis?

[Matt]

awesome casual deck ideas

Welder Survival!

[oneofchaos]

I'm with Almighty on this.
If that Book Burning player is like most of the people in the store,
you should bring an awesome casual deck and have some fun.

Unless of course, you're fully intent on crushing people's dreams every tournament.
If you're going to do that, do it right and play Stasis.

So, do you want awesome casual deck ideas
or are you going to be that guy and bring Stasis?

Casual deck ideas please.  I wanted to dream crush the first tournament I was in town for, then have fun casually.  Good cop, bad cop you know?

[Diakonov]

I agree with Matt.  Both Welder and Survival are lots of fun, and it's still very interactive for your opponents.

[John Jones]

You should play the lich's mirror deck, its a blast to play when you don't have to play against anything half decent.

[TopSecret]

Take this deck and add Vintage cards to it:

Brian Robinson
Pro Tour-Kyoto Top 8, Standard
 
Main Deck
60 cards

1  Adarkar Wastes
4  Ancient Ziggurat
2  Brushland
1  Caves of Koilos
2  Forest
1  Llanowar Wastes
4  Murmuring Bosk
1  Plains
1  Swamp
3  Treetop Village
2  Yavimaya Coast
22 lands


4  Birds of Paradise
4  Doran, the Siege Tower
3  Gaddock Teeg
2  Kitchen Finks
4  Noble Hierarch
3  Rafiq of the Many
4  Rhox War Monk
4  Tidehollow Sculler
4  Wilt-Leaf Liege
32 creatures   

1  Loxodon Warhammer
3  Nameless Inversion
2  Path to Exile
6 other spells

Sideboard

3  Guttural Response
2  Kitchen Finks
2  Path to Exile
2  Relic of Progenitus
4  Scattershot Archer
2  Terror
15 sideboard cards

[policehq]

You should play the lich's mirror deck, its a blast to play when you don't have to play against anything half decent.

And if you're at least somewhat competent at playing Magic, you can do well!

Seriously, your obsession with that deck is very tired. Is that the persona you really want to maintain on this forum?

[oneofchaos]

I was thinking about making a limited resources deck, seems good with 4 people playing.  Land tax etc.  No idea where to start tho.  Key-vault is going to go nuts tho day 1.

[Lurker101]

Limited Resources + Parallax Tide + Balance + some Mana Drains + replenish! I had a deck that did that and it actually did well on MWS (although that's not saying much).
I also had the typical replenish cards like Form of the Dragon, Attunement, Decree of Silence, Parallax Wave (for aggro), Aura of Silence, and a panoptic mirror to put replenish on. It was a really fun deck.
You could also play megrim/warped devotion here's my list (it's casual so it's not optimal):
4 Watery Grave (should be underground sea)
4 Underground River (should be polluted delta)
6 Island
6 Swamp

4 Megrim
4 Warped Devotion
4 Recoil
4 Dark Ritual
4 Hypnotic Specter
4 Dimir Cutpurse
4 Undermine
2 Urza's Guilt
1 Circu Dimir Lobotomist
2 Probe
2 Phyrexian Arena  (should be Dark Confidant)
2 Dimir Machinations (should be Necro and Demonic Tutor)
2 Man-o-war

It's a blast to play but sucks to play against once it gets online.

[oneofchaos]

This deck apparently made people very angry.


// Lands
    12  Plains
    1  Strip Mine
    4  Mishra's Factory (4)
    4  Flagstones of Trokair

// Creatures
    2  Eternal Dragon
    4  Weathered Wayfarer

// Spells
    4  Ivory Tower
    2  Abeyance
    1  Seal of Cleansing
    1  Sol Ring
    4  Planar Birth
    1  Enlightened Tutor
    1  Balance
    4  Limited Resources
    3  Scroll Rack
    4  Wrath of God
    4  Crucible of Worlds
    4  Land Tax

// Sideboard
SB: 4  Honorable Passage
SB: 4  Disenchant
7 X?

So I found something they hate more than infinite turns, not being able to play lands lol!

[Beralt]

Bomberman with a Pyrite Spellbomb.  Gives you control and you can kill both players at once.  Standstill might be an excellent option as an added card.

[oneofchaos]

I'm mostly unpowered (1 saph/4 drains), so that wouldn't work unless I used LED .

[Beralt]

Well I was about to suggest u/B Dragon with Oona as another way to kill both opponents at once - (killing both opponets at once is the key I think) - but after re-reading the comments maybe something a little more casual.  Infinite Squirrels with Earthcraft? 

Course you could run Bomberman with LED, but it's a bit harder.

[oneofchaos]

Dragon with oona? No bazzars