B/W Unpowered control

[rideserum20]

I have been toying around with a  B/W unpowered control deck. Here is the list first:

4 Dark Confidant
4 Duress
2 Extirpate
3 Hide/Seek
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
4 Tidehollow Sculler
4 Swords to Plowshares.
4 Aven Mindcensor
3 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Kataki, War’s Wage
4 Enlightened Tutor
2 Null Rod

4 Scrubland
3 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
3 Polluted Delta
2 Windswept Heath
5 Swamp
4 Plains

SideBoard:

4 Chalice of the Void
3 Engineered Explosive
3 Runed Halo
1 Kataki, War’s Wage
4 Leyline of the Void

This could be classified more as a silver bullet deck. But I tried to have as many cards in the deck serve a purpose against more than one deck. Few cards do seems out of place in vintage, but I need to start somewhere. I was going to go with U/B control but a friend convinced me to drop blue for white. Any kind of ideas or suggestions would be great.

[honestabe]

Extirpate and hide/seek seem kinda bad in the main.  You probably want to replace them with another null rod and 4 thoughtsieze.

Also, Swords to plowshares probably won't be that great in the maindeck

[rideserum20]

B/W Control v1.1:

4 Dark Confidant
4 Duress
3 Honor the Pure
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
4 Tidehollow Sculler
4 Aven Mindcensor
3 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Kataki, War’s Wage
4 Enlightened Tutor
3 Null Rod
2 Tormond Crypt
2 Pithing Needle
1 Crucible of Worlds

4 Scrubland
3 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
3 Polluted Delta
2 Windswept Heath
5 Swamp
4 Plains

SideBoard:

4 Chalice of the Void
3 Engineered Explosive
3 Runed Halo
1 Kataki, War’s Wage
4 Serenity

Changed a few things in the main and side. Took the advise of people and took out the Swords, Hide/Seek, and Extirpates. I want to utilize E. Tutor as much as possible. Added Tormond’s Crypt main because a lot of deck revolve around the graveyard. Pithing Needle mainly against Stax, Ichorid and Tezz but will probably be good against others. Added in Honor the Pure because all my creatures except Confidant are white. I don’t know about Serenity yet but I’m trying it for now.

[Myriad Games]

Agreed on the Hide / Seek. Unless you're leveraging the full tri-color power of Hide / Seek, it's not worth running. I'd cut the Honor the Pure for more disruption and/or creatures. Preferably disruptive creatures.

[Almanomada]

I think with 4 E tutors, you can probably cut one crypt and needle from the main and swap them with one chalice and explosives from the side  or some version of that.  I would personally cut honor the pure as well for another utility creature.
 also 4 leylines in the side I really like much better than tormods crypt vs graveyard manipulation.  being a dredge player, I have overcome a double tormods and even on occasion a leyline but if i dont get a grudge opening hand, the leyline kills my combo and buys you a few turns if not the game.  most players do not know when to exactly play the crypt and always pop them early allowing me to recover and recover quickly.   deck looks decent so far a great idea for budget players without power..( me )  
I had another idea I think you need a bit more disruption and dont laugh at me please but funeral charm I think would fit here.. could handle enemy BOBs and also cause a discard although they choose.   of course Gerrards verdict is even better than that.. 

[TAF]

A little-considered common from Guildpact named Castigate might be good for disruption in this deck since your only two colors are black and white, so getting the  for the cost is not a stretch.

[rideserum20]

I probably will take out the Pures. Put them in there because most of my creatures have 1 on the butt. I did want to put in another utility creature but not sure of what. My other friend told me to try funeral charm. Ill have to look into that more. I played against Ichorid last night with the first version and when I boarded in Explosives and Runed Halos I was pretty good. Didn’t get a change to play Leyline. Either I didn’t draw it or I didn’t have enough mana. I am normally a dredge player as well looking to expand my deck library.

Any ideas on utility creatures to add when Pure comes out?

[honestabe]

A sensies divining top would probably nice with confidant, especially since you can tutor it up with Enlightened.

The only thing I can think of is cut the 3 honor of the pures for 1 top and 2 thoughtseize

Besides that, the list looks pretty strong.  I personally like pithing needles in the maindeck, because they work against the best decks in vintage right now.  You can name time vault/tezz for Tezz, goblin welder or staff of domination for workshop variants, and qasali pridemage for the W/G fish decks

[MirariKnight]

Sensei's Top hates Null Rod.
Honor the Pure is really bad. Diabolic Edict seems good since it answers the stuff that will own you (Tinker guys or Oath guys). I always liked Pithing Needle main so that seems good. I would probably use Planar Void instead of Tormod's because you run Rod though. Otherwise I think you have all the bases covered dudes wise, except maybe Negators in the board.

[rideserum20]

Wow Planar Void, where have you been all my life. I didn't want to add in Top because of Rods. With so many deck revolving around the graveyard should I play the Planar Voids main or SB them. And if I main the Planars I will probably take out the Crucible at that point.

[JudasKilled]

why not add green for mb choke and teeg or run red to use hide/seek and maybe run fanatic.

And not hving 3 + null rod and at least 4 discard cards ir just plain retarded

[Almanomada]

I like the idea of divining top and a couple of thoughtseize.  It seems like the deck is 99% there.  just refining the slots for honor.   Seems like a few tough choices that you may need to make specifically to your areas metagame.  If there a re a lot of BOBs in circulation, then funeral charm may be better than thoughtseize. 

[gamegeek2]

Just be sure you have plenty of ways to interact on turn 1. As in at least 8.

[honestabe]

darkblast is nice for the sideboard (or even maindeck if your meta calls for it).  It works well against other confidqnts as well as fish

[JudasKilled]

i ran a similsr deck that was bgw and top 8d a while back 4 bobs + fetch + seize is alot of life i ultimetly switched to duress x4 and 2 seize it seemed to make a diffrence

[rideserum20]

B/W Control v1.2:

4 Dark Confidant
4 Duress
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
3 Castigate
4 Tidehollow Sculler
4 Aven Mindcensor
3 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Kataki, War’s Wage
4 Enlightened Tutor
3 Null Rod
1 Tormond Crypt
1 Pithing Needle
1 Planar Void
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Engineer Explosive

4 Scrubland
3 Wasteland
1 Strip Mine
3 Polluted Delta
2 Windswept Heath
5 Swamp
4 Plains

SideBoard: 3

3 Planar Void
2 Engineered Explosive
3 Runed Halo
1 Kataki, War’s Wage
3 Chalice of the Void

Ok so this version I add more toys in the main board subtracting from the sideboard. I originally thought about scepter/chant. But with rods its not good. I’m still not sure about
the crypt in the MB. I am trying out Castigate as my other hand disruption before trying
Thoughtseize. Still not sure if I have everything I should against Stax. I’m in a Stax and Tezzy heavy area.