ELD
Full Members
Basic User
Posts: 1462
Eric Dupuis
|
 |
« on: January 04, 2010, 03:23:04 pm » |
|
Shazaam!Let the speculation begin! Shooting from the hip, I'll go with: Sol Ring Zuran Orb Voltaic Key Karn, Silver Golem Chrome Mox Powder Keg Seat of Synod Masticore Mana Vault Null Rod Tormod's Crypt Nev's Disk Sphere of Resistance Cursed Scroll JUGGERNAUT!!!
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: January 04, 2010, 03:27:35 pm by ELD »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Yare
Zealot
Full Members
Basic User
Posts: 1215
Playing to win
|
|
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2010, 03:43:54 pm » |
|
I posted this in the other thread, but I'll post it here for good measure: Reserved ListWotC expressed with FTV: Exiled that reserved cards would not appear in it, so presumably the same policy applies here with FTV: Relics. Reserved Artifacts (credit to creepycrawly for figuring it out; I haven't checked the list for accuracy): Acidic Dagger Aegis of the Meek Aeolipile Al-abara's Carpet Alchor's Tomb Amulet of Quoz Amulet of Unmaking Anvil of Bogardan Apocalypse Chime Ashnod's Cylix Balm of Restoration Black Lotus Bone Mask Bösium Strip Bubble Matrix Candelabra of Tawnos Chaos Orb City in a Bottle Conch Horn Cursed Scroll Cyclopean Tomb Delif's Cube Diamond Kaleidoscope Didgeridoo Draconian Cylix Elven Lyre Floodwater Dam Forcefield Forethought Amulet Gauntlet of Might Golgothian Sylex Grim Monolith Gustha's Scepter Helm of Obedience Ice Cauldron Illusionary Mask Implements of Sacrifice Jester's Mask Karn, Silver Golem Knowledge Vault Life Matrix Lifeline Lion's Eye Diamond Lodestone Bauble Mana Matrix Mana Web Mangara's Tome Masticore Memory Jar Metalworker Mightstone Mirror Universe Misers' Cage Mox Diamond Mox Emerald Mox Jet Mox Pearl Mox Ruby Mox Sapphire North Star Nova Pentacle Null Rod Paupers' Cage Phyrexian Devourer Phyrexian Dreadnought Phyrexian Marauder Phyrexian Portal Planar Gate Powder Keg Pyramids Razor Pendulum Ring of Gix Ring of Immortals Ring of Ma'ruf Ring of Renewal Sandals of Abdallah Sands of Time Soldevi Digger Soldevi Golem Spirit Shield Stone Calendar Su-Chi Sword of the Ages Tawnos's Coffin Teeka's Dragon Temporal Aperture Thran Tome Time Vault Triangle of War Urza's Miter Ventifact Bottle Weakstone Well of Knowledge Xanthic Statue Zelyon Sword --------------- I know ELD's list was off the cuff, but from ELD's list, the following are reserved: Karn, Silver Golem Powder Keg Masticore Null Rod Cursed Scroll So, I don't think they will make an appearance, as cool as foil Null Rod would be. --------------- |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: January 04, 2010, 03:56:39 pm by Yare »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
honestabe
Basic User
Posts: 1113
How many more Unicorns must die???
|
|
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2010, 04:09:26 pm » |
|
Sol Ring
Chrome Mox
Voltaic Key
Mana Vault
Mana Crypt (A bit of a longshot)
Sphere of Resistance/Smokestack
Aether Vial
Seat of the Synod
Nev's Disk
Ornithopter
Darksteel Colossus
Mindslaver
Umezewas Jitte
Pithing Needle
Coat of Arms
Made some changes
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: January 06, 2010, 01:01:55 pm by honestabe »
|
Logged
|
As far as I can tell, the entire Vintage community is based on absolute statements
-Chris Pikula |
|
|
Yare
Zealot
Full Members
Basic User
Posts: 1215
Playing to win
|
|
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2010, 04:31:35 pm » |
|
Sol Ring
Chrome Mox
Voltaic Key
Mana Vault
Mana Crypt (A bit of a longshot)
Sphere of Resistance
Tangle Wire
Seat of the Synod
Nev's Disk
Ornithopter
Darksteel Colossus
Mindslaver
Grim Monolith
Juggernaut
Coat of Arms
Grim Monolith is reserved, though I hope it wouldn't make an appearance anyway. My predictions, in no particular order: Sol Ring Nevinyrral's Disk (I think this is the preview art, not Sol Ring. Having the hand holding it up in the background is just so similar in style to the original.) Tangle Wire Coat of Arms Arcbound Ravager Juggernaut Sphere of Resistance Sundering Titan <new card> Voltaic Key Seat of the Synod Mana Crypt Ornithopter Black Vise Ankh of Mishra Winter Orb Edit: Oh, I forgot that there was a new card in there. Strike Titan, I guess |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: January 04, 2010, 06:53:46 pm by Yare »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
pierce
Basic User
Posts: 325
Part Time Vintage Guru for Hire
|
|
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2010, 06:42:12 pm » |
|
The promo pic is very clearly a sol ring.
Thus,
Sol Ring
Umezawa's Jitte/Sword of Fire and Ice/Loxodon Warhammer/Skullclamp. There will be one equipment, I hope for Jitte. Love that card.
Aether Vial
Voltaic Key
Chalice of the Void
Smokestax
Triskelion/ Ravanger/ Platinum Angel. At least one artifact creature
Tormod's Crypt
Pithing Needle
the new card they hinted at
Phyrexian Processor
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
More like Yangwill!
|
|
|
|
Blue Lotus
|
|
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2010, 12:33:39 am » |
|
I would bet money that it is a nev's disk.
1:1 Nevs disk
7:2 Sol Ring
20:1 any other artifact.
Takers?
Its a shame cursed scroll can't come back, that card is the bees knees.
Edit - And I think coat of arms is a definite due to casual appeal. Which is gross.
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: January 05, 2010, 12:37:15 am by Blue Lotus »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Yare
Zealot
Full Members
Basic User
Posts: 1215
Playing to win
|
|
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2010, 12:47:47 am » |
|
I would bet money that it is a nev's disk.
1:1 Nevs disk
7:2 Sol Ring
20:1 any other artifact.
Takers?
Its a shame cursed scroll can't come back, that card is the bees knees.
Edit - And I think coat of arms is a definite due to casual appeal. Which is gross.
I'll admit I thought Coat of Arms was amazing and really fun when it came out originally, so I can see why they would include it. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
LotusHead
Full Members
Basic User
Posts: 2785
Team Vacaville
|
|
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2010, 12:54:35 am » |
|
Coat of Arms is in the Slivers! Deck. I don't think it will be in Relics.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Oath of Happy
|
|
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2010, 01:04:48 am » |
|
As far as reserved cards go, Yawgmoth's Will is on the list and yet they printed a foil promo of it...
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Yare
Zealot
Full Members
Basic User
Posts: 1215
Playing to win
|
|
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2010, 01:18:07 am » |
|
As far as reserved cards go, Yawgmoth's Will is on the list and yet they printed a foil promo of it...
Agree 100%. It's just that WotC specifically said that these sets are subject to the reserved list, right or wrong. They intend to adhere to it for FTV sets, at least for the foreseeable future. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Masked_Rider
|
|
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2010, 04:44:43 am » |
|
I can't remember if I read that they had decided not to put any reserved cards in ftv: exiled because ftv: dragons did not.
The reprint policy says they can print premium foils (like they currently do with the judge rewards)
That doesn't stop them from putting Null Rod into ftv: relics
If not a ftv, then I suspect it will not be too long until they come up with a name of a new series. They just released a "premium deck series", and the foil shards boosters are on the way.
Has anyone here played the Decipher Star Wars game? Remember the "Enhanced Cloud City" packs that had a few boosters and a promo card on top?
There is no reason they couldn't make a $20 product with 3 boosters and 1 reprint card - such as Null Rod.
There are a lot of different ways they could release promos without them being judge rewards....its just a matter of time.
gah...now I want to bust out all my old Star Wars cards and play a game.....Any Methods Necessary!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Gexzilla10
|
|
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2010, 01:13:33 am » |
|
All right I'll throw my two cents in.
At first I thought the art was Sol Ring, but Disk makes more sense, however, both will probably be in it, so:
Sol Ring (w/ new art)
Larry Nevin's Disk (new art)
The new card from "Lights"...
Aether Vial
Ornithopter (They have to throw in some crappy stuff or the set would be too good...)
Black Vise (new art)
Ivory Tower (new art) (they need both)
Smokestaxx
Mindslaver (new art)
Zuran Orb (new art)
Jester's Cap
Solemn Simulacrum (new art b/c the old one is terrible)
Millstone (new art)
Icy Manipulator (new art)
The "exclusive preview card"...
For my money, all the From the Vaults sets so far have been underwhelming. They usually have a couple of decently expensive cards and the rest are kind of janky. Sol Ring and Mindslaver will probably be this set's big draw unless they do something crazy like reprint Mana Crypt, but again, given how disappointing the other FtVs have been, I wouldn't be counting on that happening.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
A_Outcast
|
|
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2010, 02:37:26 am » |
|
That image should be from Nevin's disk. looks more "destructiony" picture wise then "manay"
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
... "OMGWTFElephantOnMyFace". |
|
|
JACO
Full Members
Basic User
Posts: 1215
Don't be a meatball.
|
|
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2010, 03:40:10 pm » |
|
Pictured card: Nevinyrral's Disk (for the EDH/Cube/casual players)
Voltaic Key
Mana Vault
Mindslaver
Smokestack
Coat of Arms
{random new preview card from "Lights"}
Black Vise
AEther Vial
Solemn Simulacrum
Helm of Awakening
Relic of Progenitus
Mirari
Jester's Cap
1 of these money rares: Chalice of the Void/Crucible of Worlds/Engineered Explosives
Other logical possibilities:
Citanul Flute
Defense Grid
Phyrexian Processor
Goblin Charbelcher
Oblivion Stone
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Want to write about Vintage, Legacy, Modern, Type 4, or Commander/EDH? Eternal Central is looking for writers! Contact me. Follow me on Twitter @JMJACO. Follow Eternal Central on Twitter @EternalCentral. |
|
|
Tiki Walker
Basic User
Posts: 68
When it's time, return and call us. We'll be here
|
|
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2010, 08:29:36 am » |
|
I am inclined to believe that the previewed artwork corresponds to Larry Niven's Disk.
Z Orb sounds like another artifact that might be in this package, as might be Icy Manipulator and perhaps Winter Orb. Cursed Scroll is also quite iconic, as well as Mindslaver.
I acquired the Exiled quite expensively, and frankly speaking I do not think that the contents are worth up the price of the package. if this The Relics package is released I hope it will not be as expensive as The Exiled....
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
It has been there alone since a long time, and it still wants to be left alone.
Everything is a Time Walk.
|
|
|
|
CorwinB
|
|
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2010, 01:41:56 pm » |
|
I am inclined to believe that the previewed artwork corresponds to Larry Niven's Disk.
Z Orb sounds like another artifact that might be in this package, as might be Icy Manipulator and perhaps Winter Orb. Cursed Scroll is also quite iconic, as well as Mindslaver.
I acquired the Exiled quite expensively, and frankly speaking I do not think that the contents are worth up the price of the package. if this The Relics package is released I hope it will not be as expensive as The Exiled....
The MSRP for all the FtV boxes is the same and is not too high, but the limited run coupled with the hype means that dealers are able to charge a lot. I'm not much into collecting "pimp" cards, but I was glad to get my hands on a couple nice cards with FtV that I would have had to acquire anyway through other means, mostly Balance, Berserk, Gifts, Tinker and Strip Mine. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Fatestitcher
|
|
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2010, 03:11:23 pm » |
|
Engineered Explosives
Nevinyrral's Disk
Grindstone
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
KingoftheScrubs
|
|
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2010, 04:40:43 pm » |
|
Do we know for certain that all of the cards will be artifacts? I can see where that would make sense as the words relic and artifacts are essentially synonyms, but I just wondered if anyone knows for sure.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Hey, I don't wanna sound like a queer or nothin', but I think unicorns are kick ass!
|
|
|
Yare
Zealot
Full Members
Basic User
Posts: 1215
Playing to win
|
|
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2010, 04:44:00 pm » |
|
Do we know for certain that all of the cards will be artifacts? I can see where that would make sense as the words relic and artifacts are essentially synonyms, but I just wondered if anyone knows for sure.
From the Vault: Relics contains fifteen battle-tested artifacts... So, it appears that all 15 cards are in fact artifacts. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
DubDub
|
|
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2010, 09:08:42 am » |
|
Since Jitte is now a GP participation foil, that leaves Sword of Fire and Ice as arguably the best equipment not to have a promo version. Does anyone think we'll see that in here?
Additionally, I think they could add in Sword of Light and Shadow, which is pretty high quality, and then have the preview card from the next expansion be a 'Sword of Earth and Stone' which would complete the trio (giving pro-Green and pro-Artifacts (you don't control)). Protection from Artifacts (you don't control, since the equipment would fall off otherwise) could be huge in the next block, which is rumored to be an artifact heavy block.
Three pieces of equipment out of fifteen cards may be a bit high, but I don't think the EDH crowd would mind. I know I'm definitely not getting any foil SOFIs until I hear for sure that it's not in FTV:Relics.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Vintage is a lovely format, it's too bad so few people can play because the supply of power is so small.
Chess really changed when they decided to stop making Queens and Bishops. I'm just glad I got my copies before the prices went crazy.
|
|
|
|
zeus-online
|
|
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2010, 06:14:14 pm » |
|
Has sword of the meek been done in a promo version? I'd argue that i gets to be one of the top 5 equipments of all time (Skullclamp taking first, jitte taking 2nd then there's sword of the meek and sword of fire/ice)
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
The truth is an elephant described by three blind men.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Bunbury
|
|
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2010, 04:06:01 pm » |
|
I would bet money that it is a nev's disk.
1:1 Nevs disk
7:2 Sol Ring
20:1 any other artifact.
Takerss
It could be Conservator |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Ten-Ten
Basic User
Posts: 473
Shalom Aleichem
|
|
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2010, 11:16:03 am » |
|
Karn, Silver Golem is a must at this point and it could not come at a better time....with the new Scars of Mirrodin set in the near future, I get the feeling Karn will return from the Blind Eternities as a Planeswalker card. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Colossians 2:2,3
That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, both of the Father, and of Christ; In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
|
|
|
|
Troy_Costisick
|
|
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2010, 11:35:12 am » |
|
Karn, Silver Golem is a must at this point and it could not come at a better time....with the new Scars of Mirrodin set in the near future, I get the feeling Karn will return from the Blind Eternities as a Planeswalker card. I'd say it's a near guarantee. FTV: Dragons had Nicol Bolas just before he was printed as a PW in Alara Block. I just wonder if the new Karn will be an artifact in addition to being a PW. If he is, Tinker gets even more exciting as a spell. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Ten-Ten
Basic User
Posts: 473
Shalom Aleichem
|
|
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2010, 11:56:29 am » |
|
Karn, Silver Golem is a must at this point and it could not come at a better time....with the new Scars of Mirrodin set in the near future, I get the feeling Karn will return from the Blind Eternities as a Planeswalker card. I'd say it's a near guarantee. FTV: Dragons had Nicol Bolas just before he was printed as a PW in Alara Block. I just wonder if the new Karn will be an artifact in addition to being a PW. If he is, Tinker gets even more exciting as a spell. I thought about that but it would also make it easier to remove with cards like Rebuild and Hurkyl's Recall. Not to mention Nature's Claim and Naturalize are type2 legal. As far as Memory Jar goes and Mox Diamond, I am just hoping the art stays the same. IMHO After what they did to chrome mox and Voltaic key, I would not want new art for Mox Diamond. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Colossians 2:2,3
That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, both of the Father, and of Christ; In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
|
|
|
|
bluemage55
|
|
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2010, 02:09:17 pm » |
|
I'd say it's a near guarantee. FTV: Dragons had Nicol Bolas just before he was printed as a PW in Alara Block. I just wonder if the new Karn will be an artifact in addition to being a PW. If he is, Tinker gets even more exciting as a spell. I believe Karn ceased being an artifact when he ascended, storyline-wise, just as regular humans cease to be humans except perhaps in form. Precedent-wise, Nicol Bolas does not have the dragon type. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Troy_Costisick
|
|
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2010, 02:39:59 pm » |
|
I'd say it's a near guarantee. FTV: Dragons had Nicol Bolas just before he was printed as a PW in Alara Block. I just wonder if the new Karn will be an artifact in addition to being a PW. If he is, Tinker gets even more exciting as a spell. I believe Karn ceased being an artifact when he ascended, storyline-wise, just as regular humans cease to be humans except perhaps in form. Precedent-wise, Nicol Bolas does not have the dragon type. Good point! |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Therubecube
|
|
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2010, 12:41:30 pm » |
|
I'm really excited to see this. I hope that the foil Karn looks sweet!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
N.Y.S.E.
|
|
|
|
|
|
