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« on: January 29, 2010, 01:31:27 am »

White's prison elements have really fallen off late. I know Back to Basics was blue, but it's the kind of effect that seems like it's more white. White now gets Kismet and Winter Orb, so this seems very white.

Magus of the Basics - {1} {W} {W}
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Nonbasic lands don't untap during their controllers' untap steps.
2/3

For 1WW, which makes a little more sense, he can afford to be a little more defensive.
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2010, 02:31:37 am »

How come  {1}  {W} {W} and not  {2} {W} like Back 2 Basics? That way it will stay truer to its original concept.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2010, 11:40:10 am »

How come  {1}  {W} {W} and not  {2} {W} like Back 2 Basics? That way it will stay truer to its original concept.
I don't think fealty to the mana cost is too important; it's already white and a creature, why not change the mana cost too?  That said, I kind of like the suggestion*.  The interesting thing about it being 2W would be that it would be easier to splash, but you'd have to splash it with basic lands to not hose yourself.  Although I think I'd still play (say) a Tundra rather than a Plains in a base blue deck to play this.  You let one land stay tapped to tap down something close to their whole mana base.  It seems like it would promote interesting deck-building decisions, whereas 1WW sort of confines it to a largely hypothetical "white weenie lock" archetype.  Kor Sanctifiers indicates that a 2W 2/3 with a conditional ability can be fair.

* I also would have never suggested it myself, which is why I like having diverse voices in a forum, even when I usually disagree with them. Smile
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2010, 12:40:07 pm »

I asked a friend what he thought it should cost, and he suggested 1WW, so I tweaked it to a 2/3. I think it's more interesting this way. It's questionable whether this or Magus of the Moon is more powerful. Probably Magus of the Moon.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2010, 10:51:31 am »

I don't mean to necromance, but this card should stay in blue. Blue. Winter Orb is an artifact, not a white card. White prison is more about board position and sphere effects than hard locks. Think of Flagstones of Trokair, all the tokens, Aura of Silence and Supression Field, and  Aven Mindcensor. The many board sweepers, specifically armageddon effects (which are synergistic with its sphere effects). Now place that against the hardlocks of Back to Basics, Stasis and Mindlock Orb. Other prison elements (more softlock) are Mana Vortex, Chill and Standstill (And Grand Arbiter Augustiv IV)
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2010, 03:53:15 pm »

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=74647

Winter orb is white these days.

I like this card, although i don't think it will make that much of a difference if it costs 1WW or 2W. Being 0/4 would be awesome, but probably a bit too good.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2010, 09:52:32 pm »

White's prison elements have really fallen off late. I know Back to Basics was blue, but it's the kind of effect that seems like it's more white. White now gets Kismet and Winter Orb, so this seems very white.

Magus of the Basics - {1} {W} {W}
Creature - Wizards
Nonbasic lands don't untap during their controllers' untap steps.
2/3

For 1WW, which makes a little more sense, he can afford to be a little more defensive.

Kismet is pretty old, my friend.  Frozen Aether is far more recent, and is essentially a blue functional reprint.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2010, 02:17:54 pm »

Kismet is pretty old, my friend.  Frozen Aether is far more recent, and is essentially a blue functional reprint.
Colorshifted cards by definition are pretty much stetches of the color pie. I don't think they tend to make for good examples of current distribution.

Loxodon Gatekeeper is a significantly more recent Kismet variant, if you're looking for one within white. Outside of Root Maze, I can't offhand think of any other color that gets something similar.
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2010, 04:22:53 pm »

For what it's worth, I think it should follow both Back to Basics and Magus of the Moon more closely and be a 2/2 for U2.
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