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« on: April 25, 2010, 05:06:09 pm » |
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Was wondering with bloodghasts being popular in type 1 that this tutor might see play. This can almost act as a secondary demonic tutor. Have ghast out, attack then after damage cast intent "if" resolves get what you need play a land ghast comes back.
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2010, 07:23:01 pm » |
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the synergy is nice, but what you gonna run it in?
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2010, 08:21:03 pm » |
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Interesting thought, but there is a lot more to think about than that.
If Diabolic Intent was good, it would have seen play by now. Casting a turn 1 dude then turning it into any card in your deck on the next turn would more ideal than trying to combo it with Bloodghast. To get that guy to work, he needs to be in the yard... so you need to put him there via Bazaar, Breakthrough, or the 1cc draw 2/discard 2 sorcery(for name); which is almost the same as just playing a turn 1 critter.
So, even if you got all that going, what the next question is, what are you searching for that a 2cc tutor is needed? This setup is too slow for Dredge and runs dead cards for TPS and Tezz, so it'll be some other homebrew type of deck. Having access to a few extra tutors is nice, but it wouldn't be as good as just running disruption/draw and controlling until you win like Tezz and TPS, or running super-dead and super-slow cards for Dredge.
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2010, 01:30:00 am » |
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Its synergetic for sure, but its a 2 card combo that you can only run 4 copies of each. So unless its gamewinning, you shouldn't count on it. It sucks to have a diabolic intent in hand when you have no creatures in play.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2010, 11:01:54 am » |
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It was always good in Kobold Storm and rogue storm decks that played a fair amount of creatures, but I don't see it being insane with Bloodghast since you still have to get Bloodghast out to cast it. Most decks that play Bloodghast are too redundant to make much use of the extra, conditional Demonic Tutors. Or they're Ichorid, which I do not think needs Demonic Tutors.
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2010, 01:21:50 pm » |
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It's a good combo with Trinket Mage to generate a lot of storm with Black Lotus and Yawgmoth's Will.
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2010, 01:39:33 pm » |
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It's a good combo with Trinket Mage to generate a lot of storm with Black Lotus and Yawgmoth's Will.
I just wanted to point out that I think this is an interesting idea. Off the top of my head, I don't know what sort of deck could take advantage of this, but it doesn't seem to be entirely outside the realm of possibility. Then again, Grim Tutor just costs B more. Worth musing over, I suppose.
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2010, 02:53:08 pm » |
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Sideboard tech against Oath! They give you a token, you play Diabolic Intent and search for High Market!
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... unless they are good players and just give you a token at EOT.
On a serious note, this card seems currently unplayable in a competitive deck.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2010, 04:34:06 pm » |
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The best place I can think of for this combo is in the dark depths / sui black shell people have been using lately. It means you could run 2-6 tutor effects instead of just VT and DT.
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2010, 09:03:31 pm » |
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I was thinking about using 1 in my dark times deck with ghasts but i'm not sure have to test it out.
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2010, 12:01:11 pm » |
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Yeah if you play the "vampire" bunch with the 2/3 lifelink flyer, or hyppies, and the diabolic edict dudes, then yeah I could def see 2-3 of them in the Dark Depth's Combo deck.
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2010, 12:39:39 pm » |
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Of course Therapy does this better, but Diabolic Intent's only "competitive" use in the past was to sacrifice Academy Rector and find Bargain.
Then again, trying to fit a recursive attrition card like Bloodghast into the same shell as a combo enabler is going to be quite difficult. But I thought it would be worth mentioning.
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2010, 01:50:59 pm » |
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As a fairly damning example: elves is a creature-heavy combo deck that ends up with "extra" creatures that it is very willing to sacrifice AND has access to black mana. It chooses not to run this card.
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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2010, 05:12:43 pm » |
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As a fairly damning example: elves is a creature-heavy combo deck that ends up with "extra" creatures that it is very willing to sacrifice AND has access to black mana. It chooses not to run this card.
I agree, but it's mostly because it's unnecessary I imagine. Will a combo deck featuring this be any stronger/faster? Likely not. That being said, I like how the OP thinks, though I think this one is a bust.
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