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« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2010, 06:28:43 pm »

Why is that bullshit?

Because ichorid doesn't deserve to win games, and the people that play it are inferior.
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« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2010, 06:56:21 pm »

JESSE MARTIN IS A MUTHAFUCKING EVIL GENIOUS AND TAKES MATCH
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« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2010, 06:58:14 pm »

yeah the live coverage is cool, we need that shit at waterbury
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« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2010, 08:22:05 pm »

It's Owen vs. Bob maher in the finals.
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« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2010, 08:23:26 pm »

to fill in anyone wondering: maher vs. owen for the championship. Pretty close to the mirror. Owen is ubrg jace/vault/key/bob/trygon/drain control
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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2010, 08:27:33 pm »

owen resolved a will and is ahead on mana. as bob and predator. maher has sea fectch bob and 3 cards.
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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2010, 08:39:42 pm »

Owen won g1.  Dtutor for tinker to get inkwell. topdecked jace next turn too. Bob is ahead g2 after owen sowered bobs bob. But a blast got it back.  trygon and bob vs. owens 2 mana board.
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« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2010, 08:42:52 pm »

what a way to lose the finals, take 5 from bob.
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« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2010, 08:43:11 pm »

maher hit running fows on his bob and twalk turn w. fatal online to lose.
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« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2010, 08:44:13 pm »

Owen Turtenwald of Team ICBM is the 2010 Vintage World Champion!  Oh, congratulations to Mike Solymossy for being Team Meandeck's highest finisher at 13th.
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« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2010, 02:00:40 am »

to fill in anyone wondering: maher vs. owen for the championship. Pretty close to the mirror. Owen is ubrg jace/vault/key/bob/trygon/drain control

How close was this list to David Ochoa's BobJaceVaultKeyTrygon deck? I don't recall his running red, but that's the only difference I noticed.
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« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2010, 06:13:56 am »

117 players is another sad fall in attendance more a bush league than a world championship at least the skill level of the top players is not in doubt.
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« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2010, 07:25:20 am »

Owen Turtenwald of Team ICBM is the 2010 Vintage World Champion!

Owen Turtenwald of Team ICBM is the 2010 GENCON Vintage Champion.

Calling GENCON Champs the Vintage World Championship is a lie. Deal with it. A 100 people tournament where 99% (if not 100%) of the players are from the US is far from being a World Championship. BOM or EUROVINO are like 4-5 times bigger with players from lot more different countries. That's far more representative from what the "world champion" tittle should mean.

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« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2010, 08:15:34 am »

Owen Turtenwald of Team ICBM is the 2010 Vintage World Champion!

Owen Turtenwald of Team ICBM is the 2010 GENCON Vintage Champion.

Calling GENCON Champs the Vintage World Championship is a lie. Deal with it. A 100 people tournament where 99% (if not 100%) of the players are from the US is far from being a World Championship. BOM or EUROVINO are like 4-5 times bigger with players from lot more different countries. That's far more representative from what the "world champion" tittle should mean.

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Second that !!!

If this 100 man tournament is a world championship, then Eurovino or Bom are the Intergalactical Championships. These statements of the "Word Championship" actually bother me enormously.
I can live with the statement USA Champion of something of that kind though.
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« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2010, 08:34:12 am »

Good morning, and welcome to day 2 of my live report: Legacy Champs.  I'm signed up, playing Doomsday.  Players meeting in about 30 minutes.
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« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2010, 08:37:17 am »

Moreover it was held yesterday ... a friday! Congrats to those not working or bring off from work. So 117 is still much but not worth calling it World championship. Moreover it's always held at Gen Con or US Nationals without repayed rides to the champs. Hello?!?!

Try this with standard; Championships only in the US and pay your flight by yourself or stay home! Well done WotC!

Guess it's the same with NBA and NFL ... Calling themselves World Champions and world Bowl winner. Maybe a cultural thing  Wink

But that's Not the Point ... Why not tour with the champs around the World?
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« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2010, 08:49:21 am »

But that's Not the Point ... Why not tour with the champs around the World?

I asked Rosewater that question in Paris in 06(worlds) were the Vintage side event was bigger than that years GENCON championship and then asked Lapille the same question in Rome in 09(worlds) were side event was also bigger. Both times I got the same blank look as they had never given Vintage a second taught it's not on there RADAR in relation to the overall health of the game.
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« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2010, 09:19:57 am »

Please stop debating "World Championship" in my tournament report.  There's a Gencon results thread.  Talk there.

196 players.
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« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2010, 09:53:42 am »

Congratulations Owen.
Why is that bullshit?
Because ichorid doesn't deserve to win games, and the people that play it are inferior.
Because orchard, mox, oath is pure skill.
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« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2010, 10:08:47 am »

Are you still playing Meditate or have you moved to Ideas Unbound? Good Luck
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« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2010, 10:14:56 am »

Meditate.  I don't know the IU piles.

Rd1 vs James King (!) Playing Ichorid.  Game 1 he plays CoB, Careful Study.  I ponder.  He plays CTherapy but misses.  I Thoghtseize him to take his Narcomoeba, then win on the next turn with DD-Tendrils.  Game 2 he plays PImp, I Duress but he has no non-creatures.  He discards, then dredges.  He therapies a DRit out of my hand, but I have 2 LED, IT.  I draw Petal, then BS into another DRit and win with IGG.
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« Reply #51 on: August 07, 2010, 11:19:42 am »

I win Rd2 vs Matt Saucy w/ Zoo.  Game 1 I keep Swamp, 2 Thoughtseize, 2 DRit, Ponder, DD, because I'm crazy like that.  I start with TS, seeing 3 lands, Swords, Qasali, 2 Lavamancer.  I take Qasali.  He plays land, GL.  I play DRit, DD and pile: Shelldock, Island, Emrakul, Tendrils, Chain of Vapor, then pass.  He plays GL#2, then swings for 1.  I play Shelldock and pass.  He attacks with 1 guy and Lightning bolts me to 4.  I play Emrakul, he Lavamancers me to 2.  I attack with Emrakul, then Ponder into Tendrils ftw.  Game 2 he starts with Leyline of Sanctity.  I have 3 lands, DRit, LED, IT, Petal.  We play land, go for several turns.  He doesn't play any animals.  All I need is a way to draw a card and I can win with a DD pile including CoV, but instead I just raw dog the Chain off the top and win.
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« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2010, 11:31:58 am »

I win Rd2 vs Matt Saucy w/ Zoo.  Game 1 I keep Swamp, 2 Thoughtseize, 2 DRit, Ponder, DD, because I'm crazy like that.  I start with TS, seeing 3 lands, Swords, Qasali, 2 Lavamancer.  I take Qasali.  He plays land, GL.  I play DRit, DD and pile: Shelldock, Island, Emrakul, Tendrils, Chain of Vapor, then pass.  He plays GL#2, then swings for 1.  I play Shelldock and pass.  He attacks with 1 guy and Lightning bolts me to 4.  I play Emrakul, he Lavamancers me to 2.  I attack with Emrakul, then Ponder into Tendrils ftw.  Game 2 he starts with Leyline of Sanctity.  I have 3 lands, DRit, LED, IT, Petal.  We play land, go for several turns.  He doesn't play any animals.  All I need is a way to draw a card and I can win with a DD pile including CoV, but instead I just raw dog the Chain off the top and win.

Unless you sided out shelldock, couldn't you just open land, rit, led, it breaking led for Doomsday, build shelldock pile, go?
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« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2010, 12:34:38 pm »

Yeah, that would have probably been the correct play.  Guess I missed it.

I lose rd3 to Matt Hazard playing Belcher.  Game 1 he is on the play, he cycles Street Wraith, then goes all in with Land Grant, 2 Rite of Flame, and EtW for 8 dudes.  I kept a hand of something like Island, 2 BS, DRit, Duress, DD, LED, etc.  I play Island, go.  He attacks to put me at 12.  On my turn I draw, then BS, but don't hit a black land, only another Island.  I play Island, Top, pass.  He beats me to 4.  On my turn I go draw, BS again, and get a Swamp on the last card.  I win with a standard DD pile (Meditate, 2 LED, Petal, Tendrils).  Game 2 he goes LED, Land Grant, ESG, Pyretic Rit, Seething Song, Belcher, win.  Game 3 I mull to 5 and keep 2 lands, Duress, Thoughtseize, and IT.  I Duress him and see 2 Land Grant, 2 Belcher, Seething Song, Mammorphose, and LED, which I take.  On my next turn I TS away his Seething Song, but I'm stuck sitting with 2 IT and nothing else.  We don't do much for several turns, then he goes all in with ESG, Pyretic Rit, Manamorphose, needing to hit more mana on the cantrip.  He rips another PRit, and drops EtW for 10 guys.  I can't recover in time.
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« Reply #54 on: August 07, 2010, 01:45:33 pm »

I win rd4 vs Travis Ladouceur w/ ANT.  This is probably the closest match I played all day.  Game 1 he Duresses me, then I TS him, seeing 2 Grim Tutors, Preordain, 2 Delta.  I figure I've got a couple turns, so on my next turn I DD, setting up the Emrakul kill with CoF on top (I had Shelldock in my hand).  EOT he Brianstorms, then Tendrils me for 10 off pretty much a perfect BS.  Bad beats.  Game 2 we again Duress and TS each other for a few turns, but then he starts playing a bunch of cantrips while I have lots of mana, but no business.  The turn before he kills me I topdeck a Ponder, and Ponder into IT, which is enough to win.  Game 3 is pretty much the same, lots of Duess early, followed by Ponders and BS.  Eventually I pull off a DD for just enough.
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« Reply #55 on: August 07, 2010, 02:56:33 pm »

I win vs. Ian Anderson playing Hexmage Depths.  Game 1 he starts Island, Brainstorm.  I go USea, Duress, seeing Stifle, Hexmage, Brainstorm, Depths, Bayou.  I take Stifle.  I play DD for the Shelldock stack with CoF on top, since I have Shelldock in hand.  He plays Hexmage and Depths, but Erkle gets there a turn earlier.  Game 2 I mull to 5.  He plays land go.  I play land, TS, seeing Living Wish, Lim-Dul's Vault, Hexmage, Ponder, Stifle.  I take Stifle.  He again assembles Hexmage and Depths in relatively short time, but the turn before I die I am able to DD into a Tendrils win.
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« Reply #56 on: August 07, 2010, 04:01:31 pm »

I win rd6 vs Ben Carp with Merfolk.  Game 1 I start with TS, seeing 2 lands, Vial, Lord, Reejery, FOW, CCommader.  I take FOW.  With no other resistance, I kill him 2 turns later with a standard DD pile.  He drew a Daze, but I have the mana to play around it.  Game 2 I side in 4x Show and Tell, Emrakul, 2 Blazing Archon, and some other stuff.  He starts with Cursecatcher.  I play Top.  He plays another Cursecatcher, Reejery, and Mutavault while I build mana and sculpt my hand.  At 5 life I am able to go off again with a standard DD pile with just enough mana to play through the CC and Daze that he drew.  I also had a S&T in hand, so I could have gone DD, S&T for Archon, which would have required less mana.
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« Reply #57 on: August 07, 2010, 05:20:44 pm »

I lost round 7 to Ryan Messick playing Goblins, of all things.  Game 1 I mull to 5.  He goes first and drops Lackey.  I play Swamp, TS.  He has land, 2 Vials, Piledriver and Warchief.  I unconfidantly take Warchief.  He attacks with Lackey, getting Piledriver in there.  I Ponder, and see Top, DRit, and DD, the perfect three cards to win in 2 turns (I have LED in hand).  I draw and play Top and pass.  On his turn he attacks for 4, and Lackeys in Seige-Gang Commander!!!, which he just drew.  I draw DRit, but will not last another turn to draw DD.  If I would have taken Piledriver instead of Warchief, I could have survived.  Game 2 I kill him first turn: Petal, DRit, LED, LED, IT.  Game 3 he plays land go.  I Duress him, seeing Mindbreak Trap, 2 Chieftains, a Warchief, Wort.  I take Trap, and feel comfortable knowing I have some time.  Unfortunately, my hand does not cooperate.  I draw all my Brainstorms, all my Tops, a couple Ponders.  I have an IT, but can't empty my hand because I can't find an LED.  Eventually I lose.  Boo.
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« Reply #58 on: August 07, 2010, 06:24:14 pm »

I win rd8 vs 2009 Legacy Champion Ernest Turck with Vengevine Survival.  Game 1 he goes land, go.  I play land, TS which gets Dazed.  He plays land go.  I play Fetchland, which gets Stifled.  He plays land, Survival.  I play land Ponder.  He discards a bunch of creatures.  On his turn he discards a bunch more creatures and attacks with 4 Vengevine for 16, putting me at 1.  On my turn I Brainstorm, don't get what I need, Brainstorm again, finally hitting IT with the last draw, aalowing me to IGG into Tendrils for just enough.  Game 2 he starts land, Rootwalla.  I play land, and bait with a Pithing Needle, but it sticks and I name Survival.  On his turn he attacks for 1 and plays Aquamoeba.  On my turn I play DRit, TS (which I just drew), and Show and Tell, dropping Emrakul.  He scoops.
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« Reply #59 on: August 07, 2010, 06:45:25 pm »

I got 16th. 

Top 8:
John Knapp
Adam Yurchick
Stephen Schoppe
Tim Hunt
Tyler Edwards
Peter Franke
Matt Hazard
Ryan Messick
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