Eryao Lock Idea

[serracollector]

I have always been a fan of the Eryao/Arcane Laboratory lock, and with some new cards I would like to see if people can help me come up with a way to make it a "2 card combo", using a set of cards, then ofc building the deck around them.  The cards being:

4 x Eryao
4 x Preordain
4 x Gitaxian Probe
3-4 x Arcane Laboratory

Obv the acall, tw, bs, ponder, 4x force package, restricted mana etc.....but where from there? 

Do we go black for tutors/confidant/y will/duress/ts/cabal therapy?
Do we go green for fastbond/regrowth/Lotus Cobra and add Gush?
Go red with maindeck REB and painters/grindstone?
Go white and make it fishy?

Repeal/Hurks?  Remora?  Tinker-bot?  TV/Key? Mindbreak trap?

Any of these seem possible, but IF this idea is feasible, what colors/deck types do you think would make it work best?

With the use of Probe and preordain, and obv 0 cc spells, flipping Eryao t1 is quite easy, and after that its not hard to find the Arcane lab with all the cantrips/filters.
Even at the worst if your opponent does cast a nature's claim, as their 2nd spell, you can obv run your own counters, or its at least a 2 for 1. 
Another thing I have noticed is that even if they have a Chalice for 1, its still easy to flip Eryao, as they still count as cast for his purposes.

Thoughts, idea's, discussions?
 

[Daenyth]

Dredge seems like your worst enemy ever with a deck like that.

[AmbivalentDuck]

Dredge seems like your worst enemy ever with a deck like that.

Not if he maindecks some of the low CMC dredge hate.   Nihil Spellbomb isn't terrible on its own merits in an Erayo shell.

[serracollector]

@Daenyth:  I'm not sure I understand what you mean?  how is that any different than saying "dredge should beat storm, tezz, or any vault key deck".   This is a 2 card combo that could technically costs you only 5 mana for the lock (2 free spells, eryao, and arcane lab etc.) That's only 1 mana more than TV/Key, and same CC as tezz, without waiting a turn, and it still has Force/Pierce/MisD/Mindbreak Trap/Drain available to it just like any other blue deck.  Why would this have more trouble against dredge than any of them?

[Daenyth]

Your lock doesn't win you the game. Dredge can win without casting any spells, so a large portion of your deck would do little against them.

[A_Outcast]

if dredge is such a major concern g1, then play obeyline as your secondary kill con.

[serracollector]

Well that is why I would like to know what color or cards I could splash around that set to make it good against dredge as well as the rest.  How about some suggestions?  thank you.

[A_Outcast]

Honestly, I can not see playing a deck without black.  You gain so much.  Yawg Win, Dark Confidants, Demo Tutor, Vamp Tutor, Duress, Thoughtsieze.  The alternate win of Obeyline.

Plus you gain postboard Jailor and other goodies (massacre/darkblast)

[serracollector]

So were thinking a list of:

4 x Eryao
4 x gitaxin Probe
4 Preordain
3 x Arcane laboratory
4 x Confidant
1 x DT
1 x VT
1 x Acall
1 x Time Walk
1 x Mystical Tutor
1 x Merchant Scroll
4 x Force of will
5 mox
1 Loti
1 Petal
1 Crypt
1 x Yawg Will

Thats 38 cards, not counting 16-17 lands, thats leaves 5-6 open slots.  2 should be a duress/TS/Cabal Therapy, so that leaves 3, TV, Key, and Tinker?  Tinker/Bot/Noxious Revival (its free!)?

Or should I go more the Mystic Remora/Repeal route?  Or is it meta at that point?

[Grand Inquisitor]

3 x Arcane laboratory
1 x Yawg Will

 

May I also recommend not playing self-damaging cards like DConf & Mana Crypt unless you have a quick way to kill.  Perhaps Jaces?

[serracollector]

Would -4 Confidant +4 Repeal be a better choice then?