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madmanmike25
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Re: 0 land hermit
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August 12, 2011, 07:35:06 am »
Either that or he means Chancellor of the Tangle. That guy has serious synergy with Chrome Mox.
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Re: 0 land hermit
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I meant Chancellor of Tangle like Mad Man Mike said.
This is more of a Hermit list than a Belcher list and Summoner's Pact does not work with Hermit since instant speed wins require a ton of mana.
I played 20 games yesterday and only went 10-10. This is bad because I was on the play every game and every game was preboard. I was playing the opposing decks as though they knew what they were up against so they were mulliganing into Force fairly aggressively.
12 times I had turn 1 Druid (only won 8 of those)
Once I had turn 1 Therapy into Warrens for 10 followed by saccing a token for another Therapy.
That was a win.
Twice I had Warrens for 8. I won one of those, with a topdecked Hermit Ironically enough.
Twice I had Warrens for 6. Both losses.
Three times I mulliganed to crap and promptly lost.
I never once even played a Belcher the whole time, but I went Warrens 5 times. I think I lacked the Belcher in all of those cases and usually (but not always) I would have preferred the Belcher.
Belcher does mix extra mana, but I am not sure what to do about that. The issue is permanent mana more than turn 1 mana. Basically you get the 4 mana easily enough, but then having 3 on turn 2 is tricky. Tinder Wall is one potential option. Extra lands mess up Belches.
LED may actually make the most sense.
Opal does not fix this, because if I already have 2 Mox in play then I probably have the 3 mana anyway.
Opal gives me mana when I don't need and gives me nothing when I need Mana.
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madmanmike25
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Re: 0 land hermit
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August 12, 2011, 09:53:13 am »
Then you need Channel. GG should be fairly easy to get with 8 ESG effects and Land Grant.
I'm still working on a similar build but with no draw and Serum Powders.
Btw, is there any win involving Hermit Druid that can go off at instant speed?
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Re: 0 land hermit
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@instant speed hermit win: not a practical one yet...hermit enthusiasts are waiting patiently for this r&d error so that summoner's pact and pact of negation can come back into busted combo
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