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Author Topic: Snakes on a Plane - gush/bob/cobra  (Read 2303 times)
tooMuchCoffeeMan
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« on: September 16, 2011, 04:16:22 pm »

After "quitting" Magic for over 8 years I recently re-caught the "bug."  I absolutely loved GAT back in the day and feel aggro-control is definitely the type of deck I want to play. With brainstorm restricted, Sylvan Library seems really good to me and combos very well with a number of cards.

For your consideration:

// Snakes on a Plane

20 Utility
4 Gush
4 Preordain
1 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Time Walk
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will
2 Sylvan Library
1 Fastbond

8 Counters
4 Force of Will
2 Mana Leak
2 Mental Misstep

11 Creatures
3 Dark Confidant
3 Lotus Cobra
3 Lorescale Coatl
2 Trygon Predator

21 Mana
6 Black Lotus/Moxen
4 Tropical Island
3 Underground Sea
4 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta
1 Island

Card Choices:

Sylvan Library - This card has have crazy synergy with the rest of the deck. Tutors, fetch lands, gush, ancestral, preordain, and ponder will allow you to peak at 3 new cards. It fixes the draw for Dark Confidant. It gives Lorescale Coatl an additional +3/+3 for free or +5/+5 if you have both in play.

Lorescale Coatl - This card just seems better than Dryad since it's not as situational since it still gets +1/+1 for drawing a land; It therefore has synergy with every card in the deck. Has synergy well with sylvan library, Jace, gush, ancestral, brainstorm, and preordain.

Lotus Cobra - Turns every fetch land into a lotus and helps fix the mana to cast Lorescale Coatl and Trygon Predator. Loves gush.

Trygon Predator - Disruption and control the board as much as possible.

Dark Confidant - I'm not sure id Night's Whisper would be a more solid choice.  

Fetch lands - Combos well with Sylvan Library and Cobras.

Sideboard:

Still in the works
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2011, 09:29:51 am »

There's a lot of colorless mana in your casting costs, so i don't see why a sol ring would be bad.  I like the lorescales, but am hard pressed to see why the tinker/blightsteel plan isn't just better.  It is WAY less slots and a 1 card combo.  Plus it has that "oops, I win" factor of turn 1 tinker with force backup.  If you cut the lorescales, libraries, and cobras, you add about 8 slots for 4 disruption (mana drains!!!) and tinker, BSC, sol ring, mana crypt.  I know that makes it more like smemenemenemen's deck, but BSC is just the 800 pound gorilla in the room, and NOT using him in a heavy counter/draw shell is just silly.

I like people playing "fun" decks, but if you are asking on ways to make the deck more competitive, I'd start there.
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2011, 02:54:45 am »

With only 21 mana sources, lots of drawing and quite high CC cards like Gush, confidants could be less effective. What about adding +1 tinker, +1 bsc, +1 sol ring instead 3 confidants?
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2011, 09:48:44 am »

There's a lot of colorless mana in your casting costs, so i don't see why a sol ring would be bad.  I like the lorescales, but am hard pressed to see why the tinker/blightsteel plan isn't just better.  It is WAY less slots and a 1 card combo.  Plus it has that "oops, I win" factor of turn 1 tinker with force backup.  If you cut the lorescales, libraries, and cobras, you add about 8 slots for 4 disruption (mana drains!!!) and tinker, BSC, sol ring, mana crypt.  I know that makes it more like smemenemenemen's deck, but BSC is just the 800 pound gorilla in the room, and NOT using him in a heavy counter/draw shell is just silly.

I like people playing "fun" decks, but if you are asking on ways to make the deck more competitive, I'd start there.

I admit the BSC/tink is a great idea but I'm trying to build a deck without it - there are already a number of finely tuned options out there using that plan. If possible Id like to move this deck towards competitive rather than fun - I'll see what I can do about the Sol Ring.

With only 21 mana sources, lots of drawing and quite high CC cards like Gush, confidants could be less effective. What about adding +1 tinker, +1 bsc, +1 sol ring instead 3 confidants?

I don't think I'll ever be casting Gush with mana - The plan is to abuse the gush/cobra synergy as much as possible.  I agree that confidants may not be the best fit for this deck simply because the deck wants island, swamp and forest on the first turn as is.  Confidant needs to be played early to be effective.
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2011, 06:28:48 pm »


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I admit the BSC/tink is a great idea but I'm trying to build a deck without it - there are already a number of finely tuned options out there using that plan. If possible Id like to move this deck towards competitive rather than fun


I think you just contradicted yourself.  Translation - "Tinker/BSC is great and other decks use this well already - I don't want to use something great, but be competitive with inferior strategies."
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