Iron_Chef
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« on: November 30, 2011, 05:16:05 pm » |
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Coming into 2012 I've seen tournament attendance in the NY/PA/NJ trend downward a little bit. The events that were consistently getting 40, 50, and even 60 players are now getting 20 and 30 players. How do I convince players to come and play at my events you say? This is how. Myself, working with Nick Detwiler, and Brothers Grim, have put together what is sure to be an amazing tournament series for everyone who enjoys playing Vintage. 2012 Northeast Vintage Series There will be approximately 20 NEV Events held in 2012, all leading up to the NEV Championship in December of 2012! The Championship is a free to enter, invite-only event based on playing in the NEV series throughout 2012. Here are the prizes! NEV Series Championship1st Place: Black Lotus + Trophy! 2nd Place: Ancestral Recall 3rd Place: Time Walk 4th Place: Mox Sapphire 5th Place: Mox Jet 6th Place: Mox Emerald 7th Place: Mox Ruby 8th Place: Mox Pearl 9th – 16th Place: $100 in credit! 2012 NEV Series Player’s Club LevelsLevel 1 (6 pts): Play with free proxies Level 2 (12 pts): $5 in Store credit at each NEV Series Event (better then free sleeves, right?) Level 3 (24 pts): Invite to the 2012 NEV Championship Level 4 (36 pts): Round 1 Bye at the 2012 NEV Championship Level 5 (48 pts): Round 1 & 2 Bye at the 2012 NEV Championship Level 6 (64 pts): Free Entry into every remaining NEV Event in 2012! How do you earn these points you ask? 2012 N.E.V. Vintage EventsThese are the points you receive in ADDITION to any normal prize structure at the event. 1st Place: 12 points 2nd Place: 6 points 3rd – 4th: 4 points 5th – 8th: 3 points 9th – 16th: 2 points 17th and beyond: 1 point |
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2011, 05:40:15 pm » |
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2011, 05:42:21 pm » |
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Bravo! Increase retention!
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 05:51:18 pm » |
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Amazing idea. I know ill make it out to as many of these as possible
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2011, 06:10:55 pm » |
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Its times like this that I hate the distance I live away from these events. That being said I will try to make it for a few of them if I can
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2011, 06:34:56 pm » |
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 07:21:20 pm » |
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Very nice, I will be glad to have my Saturdays off again come the new year...
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 07:57:25 pm » |
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Outrageous. Fantastic.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2011, 08:03:19 pm » |
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Outrageous. Fantastic.
Does this mean you're going to NYSE? please please please |
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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2011, 07:41:13 am » |
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Well, time to start slinging cards again...
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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2011, 08:40:15 am » |
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I'm really happy with what Nick and I decided on, I think it's a great system and a great incentive to come play Vintage. Here's to 2012 being a great year!
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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2011, 09:54:06 am » |
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Dumb question, but do only the Vintage events count for the standings or all events in a given weekend, aka the NYSE Weekend in January?
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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2011, 09:57:45 am » |
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Dumb question, but do only the Vintage events count for the standings or all events in a given weekend, aka the NYSE Weekend in January?
Only the NJ Vintage and the NY Vintage will count towards the Invitational Vintage tournament, held at the end of the year. |
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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2011, 11:43:30 pm » |
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I created an account just to laud this effort, and make a commitment to attend as many of these as I am financially able. You guys fucking rock, and are doing amazing things for this format.
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2011, 08:52:30 pm » |
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Just took off work, not i just need to find a ride!
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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2011, 05:47:31 pm » |
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So if you play in most of the NY/NJ events and not drop, you're guaranteed an invite to the NEV Championship and most likely a round 1 bye.
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2011, 07:23:19 am » |
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So if you play in most of the NY/NJ events and not drop, you're guaranteed an invite to the NEV Championship and most likely a round 1 bye.
If I play in 19 events are win 0 games, I have 19 points. That gets you nothing. |
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2011, 08:27:21 am » |
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Stickied, because this is just that awesome.
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2011, 10:06:29 am » |
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So if you play in most of the NY/NJ events and not drop, you're guaranteed an invite to the NEV Championship and most likely a round 1 bye.
If I play in 19 events are win 0 games, I have 19 points. That gets you nothing. If you play in 19 events and win 0 games you need to look for a new hobby... |
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2011, 10:32:32 am » |
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So if you play in most of the NY/NJ events and not drop, you're guaranteed an invite to the NEV Championship and most likely a round 1 bye.
If I play in 19 events are win 0 games, I have 19 points. That gets you nothing. If you play in 19 events and win 0 games you need to look for a new hobby... That is beyond the point, thanks. My example is extreme, but hopefully the concept is not lost on most people. |
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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2011, 09:37:56 pm » |
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So if you play in most of the NY/NJ events and not drop, you're guaranteed an invite to the NEV Championship and most likely a round 1 bye.
If I play in 19 events are win 0 games, I have 19 points. That gets you nothing. If you play in 19 events and win 0 games you need to look for a new hobby... That is beyond the point, thanks. My example is extreme, but hopefully the concept is not lost on most people. Mike, if you re-read the Player's Club benefits, you'll see we give a lot out to people who are under the 36 point threshold needed for the invite. We give $5 in credit at every event they attend, we are giving out free proxies after 6 points, and we are giving out Round 1 byes, which certainly have value at those individual events. Hopefully you'll look at this event series and recognize that we're giving out so much more then many other Organizers. I'm not surprised to see you finding fault with something that I put a lot of time, effort, and money into. Do I need to remind you that we are giving away THOUSANDS in a free end of the year event. Why? Because we want to support the people who play at our events. Your post smacks of "Thanks for giving me $5 free dollars, you know you could have given me $20, right?". -Nick |
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« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2011, 10:56:52 pm » |
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So if you play in most of the NY/NJ events and not drop, you're guaranteed an invite to the NEV Championship and most likely a round 1 bye.
If I play in 19 events are win 0 games, I have 19 points. That gets you nothing. If you play in 19 events and win 0 games you need to look for a new hobby... That is beyond the point, thanks. My example is extreme, but hopefully the concept is not lost on most people. Only you could find something to complain about in this tournament announcement. |
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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2011, 09:46:05 am » |
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Nick,
That wasn't my point at all. My point simply was to point that it is possible to not qualify for the end of year tournament despite going to every event. A massive cold streak or a more likely scenario of always being just outside the Top 8 and play in say almost all of the 19 events, would not qualify you for this big event. That was my only point to be made, not to diminish anything that both you and Nick Detwiler have put together. I'm actually excited for for the formation of this series and look forward to playing in as many events as I can. However, just simply knowing my luck lately in Vintage and doing the math, I can see a reasonable scenario in which someone could play in 17 of 19 events, never make the Top 8, and then not qualify for the end of year tournament. It is not finding fault at all, it is stating a simple fact.
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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2011, 01:48:08 pm » |
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Nick,
That wasn't my point at all. My point simply was to point that it is possible to not qualify for the end of year tournament despite going to every event. A massive cold streak or a more likely scenario of always being just outside the Top 8 and play in say almost all of the 19 events, would not qualify you for this big event. That was my only point to be made, not to diminish anything that both you and Nick Detwiler have put together. I'm actually excited for for the formation of this series and look forward to playing in as many events as I can. However, just simply knowing my luck lately in Vintage and doing the math, I can see a reasonable scenario in which someone could play in 17 of 19 events, never make the Top 8, and then not qualify for the end of year tournament. It is not finding fault at all, it is stating a simple fact.
Not to be a dick, but if you don't win a single game at a single one of the 19 tournaments what does it matter if you make the final tournament, you likely won't win a game there either. Also, I think it makes sense that simply playing in every event doesn't grant you an invite to the "tournament of champions" esque event. |
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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2011, 02:27:25 pm » |
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Nick,
That wasn't my point at all. My point simply was to point that it is possible to not qualify for the end of year tournament despite going to every event. A massive cold streak or a more likely scenario of always being just outside the Top 8 and play in say almost all of the 19 events, would not qualify you for this big event. That was my only point to be made, not to diminish anything that both you and Nick Detwiler have put together. I'm actually excited for for the formation of this series and look forward to playing in as many events as I can. However, just simply knowing my luck lately in Vintage and doing the math, I can see a reasonable scenario in which someone could play in 17 of 19 events, never make the Top 8, and then not qualify for the end of year tournament. It is not finding fault at all, it is stating a simple fact.
Not to be a dick, but if you don't win a single game at a single one of the 19 tournaments what does it matter if you make the final tournament, you likely won't win a game there either. Also, I think it makes sense that simply playing in every event doesn't grant you an invite to the "tournament of champions" esque event. I mean at the end of the day it is an Invitational...I don't really understand the whole " I played everyone of your tournaments but I am not qualified for your Invitational.." argument...Basically your just trying to buy an invite, what this tournament series is trying to foster is an improving (In terms of player ability) and increasing Vintage crowd for the Northeast. Anyone who feels they should be able to buy an invite or be entitled to one based off playing all the events is missing the point of the series I feel.... |
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« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2011, 06:11:17 pm » |
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Wow, you guys really need to read EVERY post: So if you play in most of the NY/NJ events and not drop, you're guaranteed an invite to the NEV Championship and most likely a round 1 bye.
And my response, pretty much stated that this fact is not true, even if I was a bit sarcastic. That's it. End of story. |
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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2011, 08:12:11 pm » |
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Nick Coss, Y U NO GIVE BAUER ALL THE PRIZES?
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« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2011, 10:13:48 am » |
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I'm a bit curious what sort of player count you expect for your Invitational event. I'm assuming you ran some math on it to come up with the numbers you decided on; are you looking at 16? 32? 64+?
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« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2011, 10:16:51 am » |
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« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2011, 10:39:18 am » |
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I'm in. I've also recruited a bunch of my new team to the series. Should be a good showing from me at each and every event. Can't wait.
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