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Author Topic: Mishra's Factory and Copy Artifact  (Read 4786 times)
gkraigher
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« on: March 19, 2012, 10:08:53 pm »

If I Copy Artifact a Mishra's Factory that has become an assembly worker, do I get a 2/2 assembly worker that has 'tap for 1 colorless or give target assembly worker +1/+1'?

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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2012, 07:46:59 am »

if you copy an animated mishra's factory you get a non animated mishra's factory.

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E.4.Ruling.3 - Because of Rule E.4.2, a copy card can copy something that is only of the appropriate type due to an effect. The copy card ignores all effects on the thing it is copying, however. For example, a Clone could target a Chimeric Staff that is currently animated into a creature. This is because the game thinks it is a creature and allows such a target. If it does so, however, the copy is simply the base Chimeric Staff card and it is not a creature (but it does have the Staff's ability to turn into a creature). This is because the copy effect does see past the temporary effect. [CompRules 2001/07/23 - 503.2]

706.2. When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original object’s characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The “copiable values” are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, card type, subtype, supertype, expansion symbol, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by “as . . . enters the battlefield” and “as . . . is turned face up” abilities that set characteristics, and by abilities that caused the object to be face down. Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, and counters are not copied

in the future please post this in the rules Q&A.  if someone else could move this.
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2012, 02:08:53 am »

if you copy an animated mishra's factory you get a non animated mishra's factory.

In this case, you would get a non-animated Mishra's Factory, that is also an enchantment (as per Copy Artifact's text).  If you Phyrexian Metamorph it, it will be a non-animated Mishra's Factory. Most other copy effects copy it as an exact non-animated artifact.

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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 01:01:51 pm »

The easy way to think of most copy effect is that you get a "baseline" copy of the original card.

When you cast a Clone and choose an Assembly Worker, it hits the board as if you just played another Factory from your hand. It comes in as a land, not yet animated. It can immediately tap for mana or to pump another Assembly Worker. Alternately, you can pay {1} to animate it (after which it cannot tap for mana or pump due to summoning sickness, just as a real Factory could not).

Copy Artifact and Phyrexian Metamorph also get you a "just played Factory", but since each has an extra condition on the copy effect, those are applied to your new Factory. That's why you get an Enchantment Land when you use Copy Artifact, and an Artifact Land when you use Metamorph, as described by LotusHead above.
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